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What a dumb waste of resources.
The judge has some discretion, here, but by the letter of the law, she could be forced to register as a sex offender for 20 years.
15-Year-Old Arrested, Jailed for Nude Cell Phone Photos of Herself
Comments to "15-Year-Old Arrested, Jailed for Nude Cell Phone Photos of Herself":
brotherben | October 10, 2008, 10:32am | #
Licking Valley High? tee heeIf she masturbates, can they arrest her for child molestation? Rape?
burnt bridges | October 10, 2008, 10:37am | #
We need more criminals. Felony offender, likely to plead out, will lose right to vote, right to guns, opportunities, and will wear the scarlet letter S for sexual criminal.goddam idiots but not the first or last times.
brotherben | October 10, 2008, 10:41am | #
Cell phones shold be illegal. If she didn't have access to a celly, she never would have become a pedo.anarch | October 10, 2008, 10:43am | #
During assemblies, [Prosecutor] Oswalt talked about the dangers, both in personal embarrassmentWhich he's just helped her narrowly to escape, thank goodness.
possession of criminal toolsA description better applied to certain government agents.
Elemenope | October 10, 2008, 10:43am | #
Who the fuck is the complaining witness?While the punishment is too harsh, this girl really is an idiot...
New World Dan | October 10, 2008, 10:45am | #
It seems there have been quite a few of these stories in the last few weeks. This is a funny way of protecting teenagers from themselves. When I was 15, if you wanted to see a girl's tits, you had to get her drunk first. (git off my lawn)ed | October 10, 2008, 10:48am | #
If she masturbates, can they arrest her for child molestation?Girl: Hold it! Next man makes a move, the slut gets it!
Prosecutor: Hold it, men. She's not bluffing.
Defense attorney: Listen to him, men, she's just crazy enough to do it!
Girl: Drop it! Or I swear I'll blow this slut's head all over this town!
brotherben | October 10, 2008, 10:48am | #
NWD, get her drunk? Thats disgusting. I found it much easier just to say, "I love you."Lamar | October 10, 2008, 10:50am | #
"State Rep. Jay Hottinger, R-Newark, wrote the state's Megan's Law bill, the predecessor of the Adam Walsh Act, and said this case was not something the legislature envisioned."Funny how when you write over-broad and ill conceived legislation "for the children", it tends to get applied where you didn't intend.
lurker with an aging child and a long memory | October 10, 2008, 10:51am | #
Now I know who brotherben is.Episiarch | October 10, 2008, 10:52am | #
NWD, get her drunk? Thats disgusting. I found it much easier just to say, "I love you."You could always do both. Might get you farther than 2nd base.
SugarFree | October 10, 2008, 10:52am | #
Not going after New World Dan, but...There does seem to be a buried streak of "Damn kids have it too easy these days" about a lot of these stories. Just because your girlfriend in 10th grade didn't email you dirty pictures is not a reason to criminalize it now.
The kid did something stupid and it's public. Her sufficient punishment is the certain knowledge that one or two mouth-breathing cops whacked it in the station to a blurry pic of her breasts.
The Wine Commonsewer | October 10, 2008, 10:55am | #
Stevo Darkly's on her Fave Five I bet. ;-)Episiarch | October 10, 2008, 10:56am | #
There does seem to be a buried streak of "Damn kids have it too easy these days" about a lot of these stories100% agreement. Adults always seem to think the latest generation is having rainbow parties and orgies on the bus, and many seem to be pissed about it, because they feel like they missed out or something. And then they take it out on anyone who gives them an opportunity.
Sexual frustration can be an ugly thing.
troy | October 10, 2008, 11:02am | #
This just goes to show you can be a complete fucking idiot and still make through law school, get vetted by the character and fitness.What if she does have to register?
Did I say how fucking stupid this is?
The real fucking perverts are the prosecutors. Plus when they show the pictures to the jury, they are going to distribute MORE of these pictures. Bet those fucking pigs and prosecutors keep a couple copies for themselves.
Fucking pigs.
Bingo | October 10, 2008, 11:04am | #
Before technology and internets, everything was like in the old black and white sitcoms. It's this darn technology thats corrupting our youth!This girl is in jail for exposing bullshit not her tits. The jihad against child porn is based on the idea that every child is irreparably victimized if someone sees them naked and thinks lustful thoughts. Here we have a minor who not only isn't damaged but also seems to enjoy it. She is also 15 which is a really uncomfortable age for our society. There is not just the bullshit that any picture of a naked child is automatically the worst thing ever, there is also the bullshit that a 15 year old is just like a 10 year old sexually. None of this can be true. She make the mistake of exposing a whole lot of bullshit that has been flying around over the last 40 years in this country. She must be punished for it.
troy | October 10, 2008, 11:06am | #
If she masturbates, can they arrest her for child molestation? Rape?Please, Do not give this particularly heinous species of idiot called the Juris Doctor any ideas, please.
Thank goodness! The "financial meltdown" is apparently over, and we can go back to worrying about partially developed titties and missing PartayGurlz.
J sub D | October 10, 2008, 11:11am | #
Cell phones are "criminal tools"? Who elects the morons that enact nonsense laws like this?* If a 15 year old paints a nude self portrait, are the brushes "criminal tools"?Photocopying her butt, the Xerox machine?
*I know, I know. The American citizens.
*sigh*
J sub, I would say that the prosecutor and cops in this case are criminal tools.
a pervert | October 10, 2008, 11:15am | #
Pics, or it did not happen.P Brooks | October 10, 2008, 11:18am | #
If I call my broker and short General Motors, does that make my cellphone a criminal tool?*Actually, I think Rick Wagoner is a "criminal tool". And I do not even own shares in GM.
J sub D | October 10, 2008, 11:21am | #
Epi,You can't go soft on child nudity. It's a crime! There's always an election coming up.
I'll wager the D.A.was elected. 50/50 says he'll win if he runs again.
Jim Bob | October 10, 2008, 11:23am | #
"What we're aiming at was a growing problem that we were seeing amongst juveniles and that was they were committing some very serious adult-like crimes," [Hottinger] said.Having sexual feelings: an adult-like crime.
Kolohe | October 10, 2008, 11:28am | #
Before technology and internets, everything was like in the old black and white sitcoms. It's this darn technology thats corrupting our youth!To be fair, if you you back far enough, the world was in black and white. Didn't turn color until sometime in the 30's.
My officemate has a naked picture of his newborn baby on his desk RIGHT NOW. Is there a hotline I can call?
Kolohe | October 10, 2008, 11:31am | #
Oh, and the article is useless without pics.(oh, so *that's* what brimstone smells like)
Kolohe | October 10, 2008, 11:32am | #
damn, a pervert beat me to it.Boston | October 10, 2008, 11:34am | #
Thats what they said about the 15 year old girlA guy a work with has a two year old who occasionally runs through the house naked when company is there. Exposing yourself and having a minor run around naked in public is a serous adult crime. They clearly need to lock the kid up.
R C Dean | October 10, 2008, 11:39am | #
You can't go soft on child nudity. It's a crime! There's always an election coming up.Props to J sub D for a nice pair of double entendres!
Ska | October 10, 2008, 11:51am | #
damn, a pervert beat me to it.Lucky bastard, I had to beat myself to the last pic of a topless 15 year old I had.
bud-dum-cha
ktc2 | October 10, 2008, 11:51am | #
Have to agree with John @ 11:05.These cases are about preserving the lies at all costs.
The Angry Optimist | October 10, 2008, 11:56am | #
Man, Ohio is making me proud every time I turn around.I'm starting to hate this state...does anybody live in Vegas? *asks dreamily*: What's it like?
brotherben | October 10, 2008, 11:59am | #
Atabrat, I seem to recall a case from 10-15 years ago about a bodybuilder being prosecuted for a pic of him shirtless, holding his naked baby son.JW | October 10, 2008, 12:01pm | #
I'm starting to hate this state...does anybody live in Vegas? *asks dreamily*: What's it like?I have a decent shot at a non-gambling related job in Vegas with an old boss of mine. The missus will probably put the kibosh on it though. :::sigh:::
Bronwyn | October 10, 2008, 12:07pm | #
Well that's odd. Yesterday on the radio I heard about a girl who sent a nude photo of herself to a boy, and that *he* was in trouble for possessing child porn while *she* was off the hook.Different stories? Radio host got it wrong?
Hm. Well it was AM 840, which is Fox I think.
Curious
Franklin Harris | October 10, 2008, 12:11pm | #
The stupid! The burns!!!!Gorgeous Gus the Wonder Dog | October 10, 2008, 12:36pm | #
"To be fair, if you you back far enough, the world was in black and white. Didn't turn color until sometime in the 30's."Wasn't there a movie about that? Pleasantville, I think or something like that. Did they steal the idea from Calvin and Hobbs?
Mark A Tarnowski | October 10, 2008, 12:41pm | #
"After spending the weekend incarcerated"Incarcerated? That's just wrong. It's not as if she were a threat to society.
bill | October 10, 2008, 12:44pm | #
I thought the federal courts had decided a few years ago that just nude photos of children aren't pornography. They have to have some sexually suggestive component to make them illegal. Some parents had gotten in trouble for taking pictures of their 3 year old in the tub or some shit like that.Jamie Kelly | October 10, 2008, 12:45pm | #
What's the statute of limitations on sexual deviancy?I showed my female cousin my dick when I was 8.
If she turns state's, I'm fucked.
Jim Bob | October 10, 2008, 1:05pm | #
The quote I posted earlier is still bothering me. Is Hottinger saying that taking nude photos of oneself as an adult constitutes a crime?"Adult-like crimes." What does that even mean? Is he trying to say "crimes involving sexual abuse perpetrated on teenagers and children" without saying it? Because, even if that is what he means, and even if you add "such crimes being perpetrated by other teenagers," the definition of "crime" has to be expanded to include the willful photography by oneself of oneself in the nude, with the intent to do harm to oneself, or intent otherwise criminal.
I'm going to guess that Hottinger doesn't even know what he meant by what he said, and couldn't explain it if pressed, and that this boils down to a case of abuse the children to save the children- abuse, in this instance, what I call running a scared and humiliated teenage girl through the meat grinder of Ohio's legal system.
P Brooks | October 10, 2008, 1:08pm | #
does anybody live in Vegas?Nobody goes there anymore; it's too crowded.
hmmm | October 10, 2008, 1:09pm | #
Here is a link to the story Bronwyn mentioned.www.khou.com/news/state/stories/khou081008_ar_porntext.f31234e3.html
While utterly ridiculous, at least in the reason linked case the girl did not get the Standard Female Responsibility Discount, i.e. a pussy pass.
Reformed Republican | October 10, 2008, 1:18pm | #
In Pleasantville, they go into a TV sitcom from the black and white era. It is a similar idea, but not exactly the same as going back in time.I thought it was a good movie, though.
prolefeed | October 10, 2008, 1:27pm | #
Her punishment for using electronic devices to widely distribute her photo and thus wreck her reputation is to have her photo widely distributed using electronic devices, thus wrecking her reputation?Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
parse | October 10, 2008, 1:30pm | #
While utterly ridiculous, at least in the reason linked case the girl did not get the Standard Female Responsibility Discount, i.e. a pussy pass.Yeah, it's good to keep our priorities in order and celebrate the fact that at least the story gives us the opportunity to remind each other that men are always the ones who get screwed in this society. Let the girl rot in jail--every cloud has a silver lining!
hmmm | October 10, 2008, 1:38pm | #
Parse, in theory you thinking is correct but in pratice it is unhelpful.The fact is that if you want to fix this kind of crap for everyone then the punishment must apply to girls as well as boys. If it is allowed to be a male only problem then the draconian standards will reign.
MAX HATS | October 10, 2008, 1:52pm | #
Poor kid.This is evil. Making this arrest and choosing to prosecute on this are acts of evil. No two ways about it.
R C Dean | October 10, 2008, 1:56pm | #
Her punishment for using electronic devices to widely distribute her photo and thus wreck her reputation is to have her photo widely distributed using electronic devices, thus wrecking her reputation?Talk about having the punishment fit the "crime".
parse | October 10, 2008, 1:57pm | #
The fact is that if you want to fix this kind of crap for everyone then the punishment must apply to girls as well as boys. If it is allowed to be a male only problem then the draconian standards will reign.Yes, because men are always the ones who get screwed in this society. I'm glad you reminded us of that.
TallDave | October 10, 2008, 2:49pm | #
Her punishment for using electronic devices to widely distribute her photo and thus wreck her reputationHeh. Teens today are growing up in the age of widely available Internet porn. These days, being seen naked only ruins a girl's reputation if she lives in Saudi Arabia.
Let's be realistic: this is purely puritan prudery, and has nothing to do with protecting anyone.
DADIODADDY | October 10, 2008, 3:19pm | #
Jamie KellyIt's ok, she said it was no big thing...
DADIODADDY | October 10, 2008, 3:21pm | #
Pictures dammit..Amusingly, Amarok chose to play Depeche Mode's "Little 15" at the precise moment I read this.
Stevo Darkly | October 10, 2008, 7:34pm | #
Stevo Darkly's on her Fave Five I bet. ;-)What the --! Here I'm off minding my own business, until I just happen to stop by and check out this particular thread, and I find myself personally misaligned! I've been misconstruedeled!
I deny all allegations, and what's more, I intend to prosecute the allegators.
Also, however comely a female might become upon her 18th birthday, prior to that date I find them all visually repulsive. I'll have you know.
miche | October 10, 2008, 7:59pm | #
does anybody live in Vegas?Not right now. I was there Mon-Wed and it was dead. As far as living there goes, my friend said it's all hookers and blow.
Nobody goes there anymore; it's too crowded.
John-David | October 11, 2008, 12:45pm | #
Wait a second...I know it's a little late to contribute to the discussion, but I just remembered that, according to the Ohio Supreme Court, the young lady could legally walk around topless in public. How can that be legal, but these pictures not be?