(310) 367-6109
3415 S. Sepulveda Blvd.
Suite 400
Los Angeles, CA 90034
(310) 391-2245
Missing out on the newest blog posts? Keep track using our RSS feed, and you'll never skip a beat.
Update: Oy. For the benefit of commenters who don't share my sense of humor, I'm not "going after" Santorum's daughter, who I'm about as sure as one can be will never, ever read this post and have her feelings hurt. Just making a joke about how good it is to be rid of this guy.
Jake Boone | November 8, 2006, 2:51pm | #
The crying girl is one thing, but check out the kid on the far right... what's he seeing out there?toshiro_mifune | November 8, 2006, 2:51pm | #
The kid with the glasses is a nice touch too.Leonardo | November 8, 2006, 2:51pm | #
She is a little old to be carrying a doll like that at a public event. The doll's dress even matches her dress, and why is her brother dressed like a stockbroker? Oh Robin Givhan please chime in on the strange fashion choices of the uber-religious home-schooled Santorum household.toshiro_mifune | November 8, 2006, 2:53pm | #
Nuts, Jake beat me to the punch.aaa aaa | November 8, 2006, 3:24pm | #
That's his daughter Sarah, she's 8 years old. So basically because her father has different political views than yours and has been voted out of office after 12 years in the US Senate, you're happy to see her "suffering"? Eight years old is too old to have a doll, especially if that comforts her during a tough time? An eight-year old girl should "Fucking grow up"? When did this web site turn into DailyKos?steveintheknow | November 8, 2006, 3:25pm | #
I am assuming that the crying one is the 8 year old who is astute enough, despite her age, to know that if you destroy the egg you don’t get the bald eagle.Pro Libertate | November 8, 2006, 3:27pm | #
Wow, I've never seen the thousand-yard stare in such a young kid before.The Wine Commonsewer | November 8, 2006, 3:30pm | #
Wow. Fucking grow up.Chris S. | November 8, 2006, 3:30pm | #
That's his daughter Sarah, she's 8 years old. So basically because her father has different political views than yours and has been voted out of office after 12 years in the US Senate, you're happy to see her "suffering"? Eight years old is too old to have a doll, especially if that comforts her during a tough time? An eight-year old girl should "Fucking grow up"? When did this web site turn into DailyKos?Number 6 | November 8, 2006, 3:30pm | #
I guess I'm a bad person, because I found that picture hilarious.guy in the back row | November 8, 2006, 3:30pm | #
Wouldn't it suck if your dad's job got your last named turned into a slang word for a nasty, frothy substance?keypusher | November 8, 2006, 3:31pm | #
"Man, I haven't taken this much pleasure in the suffering of a small child in days."jkp1187 | November 8, 2006, 3:31pm | #
Julian,Jon H | November 8, 2006, 3:32pm | #
aaa: "Jon H, no, their child who died in 1996 shortly after birth is not standing up on the podium next to them."Number 6 | November 8, 2006, 3:33pm | #
While we're on the subject, consider this: One of those kids will:joe | November 8, 2006, 3:33pm | #
I thought that last night. No way I would have dragged my kids out on that stage. That was obviously a tough night for them, too.aaa aaa | November 8, 2006, 3:36pm | #
Number 6: "What's worse? Laughing at a picture, or using your children as stage dressing?"zach | November 8, 2006, 3:38pm | #
I voted against him of course, but I couldn't help but feel a little bad for the kids, since I'm a big softie. However as the guy who came on after the speech rightly said, there are much larger things at stake here. Plus, I couldn't shake the feeling that Santorum decided to bring them on stage only after they started crying.FinFangFoom | November 8, 2006, 3:38pm | #
Jesus, it's a funny picture. It's (almost) always okay to make fun of anyone as long as they are not going to hear about it. I assume you're not going to go tell her about us, aaa aaa.Jeff P | November 8, 2006, 3:38pm | #
I see a "Santorums" sitcom. The daughters are Frowny and Weepy, and their son, who gets laughs each week when he inserts something new up his bum and makes that exact face (with funny sound effect).aaa aaa | November 8, 2006, 3:40pm | #
Isildur: "Going after Santorum is never 'petty partisan' anything."Pirate Jo | November 8, 2006, 3:42pm | #
"Man, I hope you guys never have kids of your own."Tony Cadena | November 8, 2006, 3:42pm | #
I don't want kids for this very reason. They are such needy little cry babies. They are constantly in need of attention.mediageek | November 8, 2006, 3:43pm | #
"I guess if you are opposed to someone's political views, you have to despise and ridicule them, their kids, their deceased children, their kid's dolls, etc. Like I said, it is DailyKos day here today."toshiro_mifune | November 8, 2006, 3:44pm | #
Oh come on people !The Wine Commonsewer | November 8, 2006, 3:45pm | #
One of the most recognizable photographs in the world is JFK Jr stage dressed as he salutes his father's casket. You think that salute was spontaneous?Pro Libertate | November 8, 2006, 3:45pm | #
Be an effing MAN, dude.FinFangFoom | November 8, 2006, 3:45pm | #
Looking at the picture again, I'm not sure if she is crying or is preparing to detonate.mediageek | November 8, 2006, 3:47pm | #
"Looking at the picture again, I'm not sure if she is crying or is preparing to detonate."The Wine Commonsewer | November 8, 2006, 3:47pm | #
How do you make a dead baby float?Wild Pegasus | November 8, 2006, 3:47pm | #
I think we're missing out on something important in all of this:FinFangFoom | November 8, 2006, 3:48pm | #
Exactly, mediageek.Evan! | November 8, 2006, 3:49pm | #
I'm w/ Number 6. I especially appreciate the "use your righteous indignation to convince yourself that you're the better person". Goddamn, talk about hitting the nail on the head.Kerry Howley | November 8, 2006, 3:50pm | #
One picture is worth a thousand abstinence education classes.isildur | November 8, 2006, 3:50pm | #
"Isildur: "Going after Santorum is never 'petty partisan' anything."The Wine Commonsewer | November 8, 2006, 3:50pm | #
I think my tubes just tied themselves.zach | November 8, 2006, 3:51pm | #
Keep in mind this guy also ran a bunch of ads featuring his kids and how great a "family man" he's supposed to be in the weeks leading up to this. Using them as political tools is a given for him. This guy is obsessed with winning no matter what, which is part of why I voted for the other guy.Davebo | November 8, 2006, 3:51pm | #
She's probably wondering who's going to pay for her web based education now.steveintheknow | November 8, 2006, 3:52pm | #
I think we have found the cast of Children of The Corn VII.isildur | November 8, 2006, 3:52pm | #
How do you get 10 dead babies into a shoebox?Chris S. | November 8, 2006, 3:52pm | #
aaa aaa,gaius marius | November 8, 2006, 4:01pm | #
wait... when did h&r become the internet center for shallowly contrived sanctimony of convenience? i thought deadspin was just a couple weeks ago! man, this internet thing is fast!ChrisO | November 8, 2006, 4:02pm | #
Wow, that's very Stepford-looking family. That said, laughing at the misery of 8-year-old girls is not my specialty.aaa aaa | November 8, 2006, 4:03pm | #
Number 6: You are completely right. The whole thread is hilarious! That's why you're in the corner giggling! I mean, you weren't the first to mention it, but it did not (and should not) stop you from laughing uncontrollably. Crying kids, dead kids, it's all comedy gold! You're right, to be a better person I should make dead baby jokes! I should mock eight year olds going through a tough time! I mean, it's not like this is a web site devoted to free minds and free markets, we should focus on the important business: spewing ricidule against any political opponent & their families.Pig Mannix | November 8, 2006, 4:03pm | #
Man, I haven't taken this much pleasure in the suffering of a small child in days.highnumber | November 8, 2006, 4:03pm | #
I join the ranks of the depraved, I guess, because I saw this photo in the paper this morning, smiled, and hoped that I would see it online so I could email it to all my friends. I had all the same thoughts as the bad people posting here:jeem | November 8, 2006, 4:05pm | #
I'm glad Santorum lost, but you're a dick for taking pleasure in a child's sorrow.Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 4:05pm | #
The kid on the far left, obscured by Guy Smiley, was bawling too. He seemed to be about 15.Swillfredo Pareto | November 8, 2006, 4:06pm | #
Santorum decided to use his spawn as political props. That makes them fair game.ed | November 8, 2006, 4:09pm | #
Wouldn't it suck if your dad's job got your last named turned into a slang word for a nasty, frothy substance?Pro Libertate | November 8, 2006, 4:10pm | #
I'm reminded of Billy Thorpe's "Children of Santorum".Evan! | November 8, 2006, 4:11pm | #
aaa aaa:M | November 8, 2006, 4:12pm | #
"The ML [Modal Libertarian] does not, unfortunately, hate the State because he sees it as the unique social instrument of organized aggression against person and property. Instead, the ML is an adolescent rebel against everyone around him: first, against his parents, second against his family, third against his neighbours, and finally against society itself … The ML also has the thousand-mile stare of the fanatic." ~ Hans-Herman Hoppe, Democracy: The God That Failed, p. 206, Footnote #22Jesse Walker | November 8, 2006, 4:12pm | #
I don't think crying girls are funny. But I do like South Park references.GILMORE | November 8, 2006, 4:12pm | #
Rick Jr. (or, "little dick" as he's known around the house) was actually weeping his eyes out too during the concession speech. They just caught him in a stunned moment where he contemplating what Dad had told him =Felcher Santorum | November 8, 2006, 4:12pm | #
Maybe she's sad that he's going to be home more often? Was this picture taken right after he made that statement?Grummun | November 8, 2006, 4:14pm | #
The girl will never know about this thread.Felcher Santorum | November 8, 2006, 4:15pm | #
Evan, are you implying that they do have the body of their infant on display?That Annoying Guy Who Always Quotes Caddyshack | November 8, 2006, 4:16pm | #
Now I see why tigers eat their young.B | November 8, 2006, 4:16pm | #
(sigh)The Wine Commonsewer | November 8, 2006, 4:16pm | #
Hey, when I was a little fat girl I didn't think it was funny at all.aaa aaa | November 8, 2006, 4:17pm | #
Here you go, enjoy:Evan! | November 8, 2006, 4:18pm | #
Felcher,Pro Libertate | November 8, 2006, 4:19pm | #
Hold on, GILMORE, I'm seeing a pattern. First, I noted the child's thousand-yard stare. Then M notes above that the thousand-yard stare is an attribute of a libertarian. Could Son of Santorum be the Libertarian Messiah that we've been waiting for? Sweater-vest clad for liberty.The Wine Commonsewer | November 8, 2006, 4:20pm | #
I've forgotten most of the best dead baby jokes but here goes........FinFangFoom | November 8, 2006, 4:21pm | #
Yes, the Santorums have a rough future ahead of them, what with their father returning to his position as a partner at Kirkpatrick & Lockhart, increasing the firm's lobbying practice, and pulling down $2-3 mil for bringin in all the Republican and religious conservative work.Evan! | November 8, 2006, 4:21pm | #
"Plus, I thought we all established here there's no problem ridiculing the children of opponents?"aaa aaa | November 8, 2006, 4:22pm | #
Number 6: "aaa aaa- Jebus, dude, why not just fall to the floor, pound your fists and kick your legs? Are you always this quick to descend into incoherence?"Jon H | November 8, 2006, 4:22pm | #
"Evan, are you implying that they do have the body of their infant on display?mk | November 8, 2006, 4:24pm | #
*sigh*FinFangFoom | November 8, 2006, 4:24pm | #
ah ah ah aaa aaa, you can't invoke Godwin's law yourself.Evan! | November 8, 2006, 4:25pm | #
"No, but you're quicker to invoke Jebus. I hope you're not some kind of bible thumping freak like Santorum, because I am revising my moral worldview based on your example. I mean, look at the necklace his 8 year old is wearing. It's a cross! Might was well be a swastika!"CaptainMOAB | November 8, 2006, 4:26pm | #
Someone mentioned giving the girl a pony. I agree, comfort food is nice at times like this.Jon H | November 8, 2006, 4:26pm | #
aaa aaa writes: "Who could possibly assume that based on this statement "Man, I haven't taken this much pleasure in the suffering of a small child in days"?"Chris S. | November 8, 2006, 4:28pm | #
Is that the stare that equips the ML to surpass traditionalists in tackiness? Leave the kids alone; they've been exploited enough.Evan! | November 8, 2006, 4:29pm | #
Oh, the HORROR, someone made fun of a crying little girl! Time to crush his testicles because I don't agree that it's funny!aaa aaa | November 8, 2006, 4:31pm | #
Evan, I am the life of the party, look at my link to dead baby jokes. It is freakin' high-larious!Stephen Macklin | November 8, 2006, 4:31pm | #
Welcome to the Libertarian Underground.The Wine Commonsewer | November 8, 2006, 4:32pm | #
Julian, your disclaimer reminds me that Clinton never inhaled and that GWB served in the National Guard.Pro Libertate | November 8, 2006, 4:33pm | #
Actually--and I mean this in all seriousness--why were the kids so upset? Did Dad simply freak out on them before they got on stage? Were they forced to get up there and were crying because of that? Did Santorum curse God? Certainly, they're going to be wealthier if anything, so it's not the "Daddy's losing his job" issue. Are they even going to have to move, if he's going to K&L (presumably the DC office)?Bunnie | November 8, 2006, 4:35pm | #
Wow. I'm shocked that libertarians haven't made more inroads what with our erudite commentary and thoughtful analysis on display here.mantooth | November 8, 2006, 4:35pm | #
Julian,joe | November 8, 2006, 4:37pm | #
Look, people, society exists for the purpose of elevating our lives above what they would be in a state of nature.FinFangFoom | November 8, 2006, 4:40pm | #
He was a partner at K&L before he went into politics. I would assume that he would end up in DC if his goal is to make the most money. If not he may have to content himself with a measely half million or whathever their partners make in PA.John | November 8, 2006, 4:40pm | #
Hey JoePro Libertate | November 8, 2006, 4:41pm | #
joe,John | November 8, 2006, 4:41pm | #
"Is it just me, or does The Mrs. look like she's really jonesing for a Highball?"aaa aaa | November 8, 2006, 4:43pm | #
Jon H, your absolutely right, Sanchez should never have used the word "suffering", since no one can truly suffer unless it is as a result of the application of US military power in an illegal and immoral war. Speak truth to power!mediageek | November 8, 2006, 4:43pm | #
Alternate photo at Wonkette.Walker, Texas Stranger | November 8, 2006, 4:43pm | #
Santorum's daughter Sarah Maria cries while holding and consoling son Gabriel Michael.David | November 8, 2006, 4:44pm | #
Libertarians love privacy as long as it doesn't deprive them of the ability to merciless redicule someone who doesn't agree with them.The Wine Commonsewer | November 8, 2006, 4:46pm | #
My uncle kissed my grandfather's dead face in the casket (gave me the willies, I ain't touching no dead bodies). My friend Amphetamine Annie sat with her dead husband for nearly a day. I'll give you wierd on the dead infant corpse pass around pack BUT......I've seen a lot of strange stuff when it comes to dead people and the way people grieve.crustybread | November 8, 2006, 4:46pm | #
There is no loss this year as sweet as that douchebag scrotorum... his daughter is crying because now she knows her dad sucks.The Wine Commonsewer | November 8, 2006, 4:48pm | #
Media, that's a great photo.Santorum Wrong Here | November 8, 2006, 4:49pm | #
Say what you want about individuals' comments here; however the issue rest with Santorum. He chose to put his children in a public eye via campaign commercials and now via this public concession speech. I personally find Santorum very self serving here. If he thought about his children's welfare for a second over his political ambition, he would not have put them in this type of situation.The Wine Commonsewer | November 8, 2006, 4:50pm | #
Media, that's a great photo, and the highball crack was excellent.The Wine Commonsewer | November 8, 2006, 4:53pm | #
Santorum Wrong Here, sure he is, but.......Every politician does exactly the same thing. The flag and the kids. Flag behind, kids upfront, doting wife standing one step to the right and behind, demure smile, conservative Sunday-go-to-meeting suit, no cleavage. Well, except Gore's wife that is.....Kap | November 8, 2006, 4:54pm | #
It appears to me the young lad - innocently trying to help with the photo op - told his sister that he slaughtered and ate her pony, only to realized he had just implicated himself in a felony, thanks in part to his dad's cronies.Bunnie | November 8, 2006, 4:59pm | #
And all this "it's his fault because he used his family as props" rationalization is just stupid.BobDobolina | November 8, 2006, 4:59pm | #
Julian, that not only made my day, but my entire month. Hopefully, it will be emailed to Bill O'Reilly who will bust a vein ...Captain Holly | November 8, 2006, 5:02pm | #
Mediageek: they did indeed. Their infant child died, and they spent the next day passing the corpse around the living room, lavishing it with love and treating it as if it were alive. Fucking creepy, I tells ya.Chris S. | November 8, 2006, 5:04pm | #
Santorum Wrong Here, sure he is, but.......Every politician does exactly the same thing. The flag and the kids. Flag behind, kids upfront, doting wife standing one step to the right and behind, demure smile, conservative Sunday-go-to-meeting suit, no cleavage. Well, except Gore's wife that is...Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 5:05pm | #
"In his Senate office, on a shelf next to an autographed baseball, Sen. Rick Santorum keeps a framed photo of his son Gabriel Michael, the fourth of his seven children. Named for two archangels, Gabriel Michael was born prematurely, at 20 weeks, on Oct. 11, 1996, and lived two hours outside the womb.highnumber | November 8, 2006, 5:07pm | #
If a 5 year old at a birthday party drops his cake and ice cream and starts bawling, are you filled with sympathy or do you smile and think it's kind of funny? Maybe both, right? Would you start threatening to crush the testicles of the adult next to you who thinks it is a little funny? Gosh, I hope not. What is wrong with having a little fun because a child is bawling her eyes out (or maybe bawling her eyes in, as it appears in the photo) over nothing? If I were her father, I would put my arm around her, smile, and tell her it's okay, and try to get her to laugh at herself for taking things so seriously. If she is going to have the opportunity to look back at this photo and laugh in 10 or 20 years, I can look at it and laugh right now.FinFangFoom | November 8, 2006, 5:08pm | #
TPG, that is fucking creepy.aaa aaa | November 8, 2006, 5:09pm | #
Joe, you're missing the whole point of this thread.Grampa Sanchez | November 8, 2006, 5:10pm | #
Okay, that's enough now.Chris S. | November 8, 2006, 5:10pm | #
Wow.jf | November 8, 2006, 5:13pm | #
Stop blaming other people for your own behavior.FinFangFoom | November 8, 2006, 5:13pm | #
In the interests of shooting this one off of the bad-taste-o-meter:aaa aaa | November 8, 2006, 5:14pm | #
Number 6: "aaa aaa: Seriously, do you realize how stupid you sound? Here, I'll help: why not accuse me of thinking the gas chambers are funny?"Lazlo | November 8, 2006, 5:14pm | #
Actually--and I mean this in all seriousness--why were the kids so upset?Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 5:16pm | #
Honestly people, fat people are funny. Fat kids are funnier. Crying fat kids are funnier yet. Crying fat kids holding dolls dressed exactly like them are hilarious.Swillfredo Pareto | November 8, 2006, 5:16pm | #
"'That's my little guy,' Santorum says, pointing to the photo of Gabriel, in which his tiny physique is framed by his father's hand. The senator often speaks of his late son in the present tense. It is a rare instance in which he talks softly.Jennifer | November 8, 2006, 5:17pm | #
To that I'd label as "incredibly stupid" the remarks that Santorum had his family out there for political reasons. Number 1, thankfully this douchebag's political career is over. Number 2, just maybe he and his supporters really believe the "family values stuff" that we all mock around here and he thought that it was appropriate to have his family with him as he gave his concession (or whatever) speech.jf | November 8, 2006, 5:20pm | #
Number 6,Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 5:21pm | #
So if you're an eight-year-old from a highly religious family with a deep, abiding belief in the reality of God and Jesus and the Devil, that must mean that God has abandoned Daddy. Maybe Evil has just taken over the world, or perhaps the Tribulation has started and since they're all still here, they somehow missed the Rapture-Bus. I'd be crying too!Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 5:23pm | #
The fact that he chose to publicize it is far more unsavory.Zeno | November 8, 2006, 5:26pm | #
Oy. For the benefit of commenters who don't share my sense of humor, I'm not "going after" Santorum's daughter, who I'm about as sure as one can be will never, ever read this post and have her feelings hurt. Just making a joke about how good it is to be rid of this guy.biologist | November 8, 2006, 5:26pm | #
FinFangFoom | November 8, 2006, 5:13pm | #Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 5:30pm | #
As someone pointed out already, it was probably around midnight when the photo was taken.Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 5:30pm | #
However, like I said, his political career is over, which might eliminate the need for cynical manipulations.FinFangFoom | November 8, 2006, 5:31pm | #
I don't know about the handling of the baby with such young kids. It has a flavor of that Simpsons episode where Homer says something like, "Say your prayers, Bart, you might wake up dead."Number 6 | November 8, 2006, 5:31pm | #
As for the "stage dressing" deal, it is common to have your family at such events, so that criticism has no merit whatsover.Greg | November 8, 2006, 5:34pm | #
Why is she crying? I dunno, maybe because children often love their parents?Zeno | November 8, 2006, 5:36pm | #
Greg,Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 5:37pm | #
Why is she crying? I dunno, maybe because children often love their parents?torrentprime | November 8, 2006, 5:39pm | #
My friend and I watched the concession speech last night, and his first comment, in less than 10 seconds, was, "His son is gay." Not a slam, but he's one of those people who think they have perfect gaydar, and looking at one of his sons, he swore he could see it.Greg | November 8, 2006, 5:39pm | #
Being the heartless, morally bankrupt, etc. atheist that I am, I try not to find humor in the wholely innocent suffering of others.Zeno | November 8, 2006, 5:42pm | #
Number 6,Zeno | November 8, 2006, 5:44pm | #
Greg,highnumber | November 8, 2006, 5:47pm | #
I try not to find humor in the wholely innocent suffering of others.She is not suffering! Her daddy lost an election. He did not die. He is not going away for a long time. She is not in physical pain. No one is laughing at her suffering, because she is not suffering. She is acting like a brat. I can laugh at brats.
Zeno | November 8, 2006, 5:48pm | #
Number 6,Zeno | November 8, 2006, 5:51pm | #
highnumber,Greg | November 8, 2006, 5:51pm | #
She's just the kid of a man who lost a Senate race; she didn't run for the office, etc.mk | November 8, 2006, 5:52pm | #
The gay men are coming and bringing their goats. And they are all going to rape daddy.aaa aaa aaa | November 8, 2006, 5:54pm | #
I'll end with this non-sarcastic comment. There are not that many libertarian web sites out there, and it is unfortunate to see this one sliding into DailyKos-hood. I know the magazine (and web site) is being reoriented towards a somewhat different market segment, and I guess you have to go where the eyeballs are, but it is a little disappointing how the quality of the "Hit & Run" blog has deteriorated. I would think people here would stand up more for a core libertarian value like personal privacy, but I suppose that is not the new target audience.highnumber | November 8, 2006, 5:56pm | #
aaa aaa aaa,MUTT | November 8, 2006, 5:58pm | #
A vile swine. Indeed "A Generation of Swine" shoots low.Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 5:58pm | #
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/061108/480/a7e555806d1144489f0158b8d4b3e7c3Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 5:58pm | #
Also good:Bob Z | November 8, 2006, 5:59pm | #
I think this is the most entertaining thread I've ever seen on Reason. Thank God they traded in the server squirrels for server terriers or some such.Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 6:01pm | #
The big family is all part of the act so he had to drag young kids on stage after midnight.Pro Libertate | November 8, 2006, 6:04pm | #
Aaa aaa aaaa. Is that near Castle Aaa aaa aaaa?Jennifer | November 8, 2006, 6:05pm | #
It was 10 PMM | November 8, 2006, 6:08pm | #
Has anyone reading this thread changed his or her opinion about its subject or learned something substantive from reading opposing perspectives?Bob Z | November 8, 2006, 6:08pm | #
TPG,aaa aaa | November 8, 2006, 6:09pm | #
Good guess, highnumber! Maybe it is a cultural thing, but I think it is more because I have two small kids. Before I was a parent I'd read some story about something bad happening to a kid and not really feel much about it. Now I visualize it happening to one of my kids and I have more of an emotional reaction. I can see where MK is coming from with his remark.Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 6:12pm | #
Still damned late for an eight-year-old kid to be kept up at a boring grown-up function. A responsible parent would know that. Santorum apparently does not.Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 6:13pm | #
but now I'm with some commenters up-thread; what was said to these children to make them so upset?Jose Ortega y Gasset | November 8, 2006, 6:13pm | #
I feel for any kid who has an asshat for a father.Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 6:14pm | #
but probably she's crying because she's genuinely upset about something bad which has happened to her father that she does not fully understand.aaa aaa | November 8, 2006, 6:15pm | #
Thomas Paine's Goiter: "I'd cry too if the gay boogeymen were coming to sodomize daddy straight to hell."jf | November 8, 2006, 6:16pm | #
Jose Ortega y Gasset,Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 6:18pm | #
And that's when I finally gave up on this website... Have fun everyone!Chris S. | November 8, 2006, 6:22pm | #
M asked:highnumber | November 8, 2006, 6:22pm | #
And the dead baby comments are just weird and disturbing.Dead baby jokes are funny, partly because they are taboo, but not funny in the context of a thread about a family that has lost a baby. I agree with you about that. How they grieved may seem creepy or weird to us, but I will not judge. I have no idea how handle that, so again I agree with you. Chuckling at an 8 year old's bratty display, maybe it takes a United Statesian to do that.
Again | November 8, 2006, 6:25pm | #
"Holy fuck, would you people just relax? It's not like anyone is up in the little girl's face screaming 'boooyaaaah, ya little twat! Daddy LOST! Your daddy sucks, so do you! Now you're gonna have to move to the poorhouse! HAHAHAHA!'"Happy Jack | November 8, 2006, 6:27pm | #
I have to disagree. I don't find a kid crying funny.Kap | November 8, 2006, 6:36pm | #
And the dead baby comments are just weird and disturbing.George Mason's Tonsils | November 8, 2006, 6:38pm | #
Still like libertarians, but not so fond of Reason anymore. Goodbye.Aresen | November 8, 2006, 6:39pm | #
In the immortal words from the FAR SIDE:GILMORE | November 8, 2006, 6:39pm | #
"I'll give Julian a pass because it seemed to me he knew he was being crass and heartless but he felt what he felt and decided to get a laugh out of it."highnumber | November 8, 2006, 6:46pm | #
I have to disagree. I don't find a kid crying funny.To all the commenters who feel that way, imagine that you are a senator. (You don't have to be anything like Santorum. You can be a good politician - the mythical libertarian senator.) You lose an election. Your 8 year old daughter bawls like that next to you on stage as you concede defeat. Of course you wouldn't laugh in her face, you would comfort her. Later you sit down with your family and look at pictures of that night. You wouldn't see this picture and have a chuckle with your daughter for overreacting?
Again | November 8, 2006, 6:47pm | #
"Oooh, how Big of you."Jim Bob | November 8, 2006, 6:54pm | #
/reads threadJulian Sanchez | November 8, 2006, 6:56pm | #
I realize a certian percentage of people will just never find something like this amusing and, eh, whatever, but FWIW, as a couple others have noted:The Wine Commonsewer | November 8, 2006, 6:57pm | #
but, seriously, is it customary for the family of a defeated politician to weep like this on stage?Chris S. | November 8, 2006, 7:01pm | #
/reads threadtoshiro_mifune | November 8, 2006, 7:08pm | #
Poor, poor fat girl. Do your tears smell like ham ?Chris S. | November 8, 2006, 7:10pm | #
toshiro,jf | November 8, 2006, 7:11pm | #
Julian,Jesse Walker | November 8, 2006, 7:19pm | #
Y'know, while it's pretty clear to me that Julian didn't mean his post the way some commenters have taken it (if you took that line about pleasure in the suffering of a little girl literally, you're pretty tone-deaf), I have to say that a lot of the commenters who have been sticking up for it sound like sociopaths. The only people I've known who think it's innately funny to see a kid cry were fifth-grade bullies.Eddy | November 8, 2006, 7:19pm | #
You would cry too if you knew that guy just got loads of free time to spend with you.Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 7:21pm | #
The only people I've known who think it's innately funny to see a kid cry were fifth-grade bullies.just another lurker | November 8, 2006, 7:22pm | #
Ah yes, Hit & Run. A family oriented blog.Happy Jack | November 8, 2006, 7:26pm | #
highnumber - what can I say? I just find the zombie and the bird-flipper funnier.Shem | November 8, 2006, 7:28pm | #
Sorry, but only polito-geeks in certain corners of the blogosphere are aware of that slang. It's truly an inside joke, no pun intended.M | November 8, 2006, 7:42pm | #
[M:] Has anyone reading this thread changed his or her opinion about its subject or learned something substantive from reading opposing perspectives?But please don't hurt me | November 8, 2006, 7:46pm | #
go ahead, crush my testiclesNoStar | November 8, 2006, 7:48pm | #
After 230 posts, it seems to almost refute Godwin's (it's not just a good idea, it's the) Law that no one has mentioned how much the Santorums look like the model NAZI family.Ken Shultz | November 8, 2006, 7:49pm | #
Y'know, while it's pretty clear to me that Julian didn't mean his post the way some commenters have taken it (if you took that line about pleasure in the suffering of a little girl literally, you're pretty tone-deaf), I have to say that a lot of the commenters who have been sticking up for it sound like sociopaths. The only people I've known who think it's innately funny to see a kid cry were fifth-grade bullies.Ken Shultz | November 8, 2006, 7:52pm | #
I'd probably cry like that too if I thought I might have to move back to Pittsburgh or some other god awful, Pennsylvania place.BobDobalina | November 8, 2006, 7:55pm | #
Just when I stopped laughing, Thomas Paine's Goiter posts more pics, and I realize that the doll she is holding looks like Linda Tripp ...mk | November 8, 2006, 8:05pm | #
On the other hand, I am, in fact a bad personhappy | November 8, 2006, 8:11pm | #
As the child of for US Congressman, I was almost always in bed on election night and only at the HQ for the first win. After that, I was kept home.david tiley | November 8, 2006, 8:12pm | #
I though that policing people's sense of humour was something that the Evil PC Left did?happy | November 8, 2006, 8:22pm | #
Holy crap, that doll really does look like Linda Tripp. U can't stop laughing.happy | November 8, 2006, 8:24pm | #
But what would a talking Linda Tripp doll say?Jon H | November 8, 2006, 8:35pm | #
mediageek writes:"Is it just me, or does The Mrs. look like she's really jonesing for a Highball?"Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 9:14pm | #
I have as well in the past when my child was throwing a temper tantrum. I don't think this girl is being bratty at all and I don't know where you are getting the impression that she is.Clemsonuee | November 8, 2006, 9:22pm | #
That photo was funny.thoreau | November 8, 2006, 9:22pm | #
247 posts? Wow. Over this? Wow.happy | November 8, 2006, 9:23pm | #
I almost hate to do this but crying 8year old video is here:The Wine Commonsewer | November 8, 2006, 9:30pm | #
Poor, poor fat girl. Do your tears smell like ham?Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 9:33pm | #
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4RtG_ixGIns&mode=related&search=cliff | November 8, 2006, 9:34pm | #
I don't think anyone has addressed the wide view of this photo. It seems to have a range of emotion like the Kubler Ross stages of grief.Mr. Bojangles | November 8, 2006, 9:35pm | #
That's no doll. That's Mr. Santorum's fetus child.Kap | November 8, 2006, 9:37pm | #
247 posts? Wow. Over this? Wow.happy | November 8, 2006, 9:37pm | #
"BTW, I haven't laughed this hard about a post in quite a while. It made my day. I'm still laughing."The Wine Commonsewer | November 8, 2006, 9:38pm | #
Bio, the DEA references on House last night perked my attention right up and the cop, well, the cop is just an really interesting twist (don't want to screw it up for anyone who Tivo'd it). Of course, the plot lines are pushed to the almost to the point where suspense of disability is difficult but the dialogue and the characters are just great. I love the show as well. It is the one show that we do watch.Narr | November 8, 2006, 9:42pm | #
Damn. Once again I arrive at a party after all the drugs are gone.Steve-O | November 8, 2006, 10:01pm | #
The kid with the glasses looks like the cannibal in Sin City... remember him?marley | November 8, 2006, 10:09pm | #
Fuck Rick Santorum and fuck his family. These freaks have been trying to intrude into everyone else's personal lives for years. Turnabout is fair play.Daniel | November 8, 2006, 10:11pm | #
There is a silver lining however in the defeat that the Republicans have suffered. The leadership in the House and Senate (with the exception of Santorum) had gotten more concerned with maintaining its power than with supporting conservative principles. This defeat will drive the party back to the base. In two years we will come back with truly conservative candidates who are willing to stand for their priciples. So, thanks for the help and enjoy your victory while it lasts.Jesse | November 8, 2006, 10:11pm | #
If you don't like the comment about the kid because you felt bad for her, then you're a bleeding-heart liberal. Ha ha!MUTT | November 8, 2006, 10:12pm | #
for you whiners......ive seen tangeled heaps of corpses of kids (a lot skinnier) like Santorums unfortunate spawn. products of self righteous politicians no better than him. They are shrugged off- collateral damage. Tough luck. Suck it up.James Kabala | November 8, 2006, 10:13pm | #
I'm a little surprised by people who can't understand why the girl is crying and are devising all sort of whacky theories to explain why. I would have cried when I was eight if one my parents had been publicly humiliated, which is what a crushing defeat like this certainly is. As for whether the kids should have been up at 10 P.M., probably not, but is one incident really enough to condemn them as irresponsible parents? If it were someone you liked, no one would think so.Soo Doh Nim | November 8, 2006, 10:13pm | #
Politicians cannot put their children on stage for their public appearances, then ask for privacy. This is fair, if tasteless, commentary. And it's pretty funny too.happy | November 8, 2006, 10:35pm | #
As I mentioned earlier, my father was in the House of Representatives. Those of you who are all up in arms about this are taking it way too seriously.happy | November 8, 2006, 10:37pm | #
In my last post it should read 'a focus' not 'the focus'Frank_A | November 8, 2006, 10:53pm | #
I have to admit it.Thomas Paine's Goiter | November 8, 2006, 10:53pm | #
You people are simply awful. Don't tell me you guys never crapped your diaper when you were eight.your inner child | November 8, 2006, 11:06pm | #
Could there be an ingredient of envy in this hostility? Would you prefer her to be hardened, like you?Aresen | November 8, 2006, 11:07pm | #
DanielFinFangFoom | November 8, 2006, 11:09pm | #
I can't wait to print this thread out and send it to Santorum's daughter!nml | November 8, 2006, 11:16pm | #
“Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture, ... When the culture is sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for this scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm.”highnumber | November 8, 2006, 11:28pm | #
Jesse Walker,Will Allen | November 8, 2006, 11:30pm | #
Yeah, being an asshole is really a very witty thing, and oh so libertarian! Is this a big deal? No. Is Santorum an asshole? Yeah, no doubt. So what? The kid is not some extension of a politician, and it only the common numbskullery, of which Santorum no doubt is a prime example, that seeks to make every last thing on earth fodder for politics, even the behavior of some kid. A lot of you nitwits are just a mirror image of ol' Ricky.Godfrey | November 8, 2006, 11:31pm | #
Aresen: I peed my pants in front of friends when I was twelve. I survived.Mommy | November 8, 2006, 11:32pm | #
My son has a Mom and a Mommy.Will Allen | November 8, 2006, 11:41pm | #
If I understand you correctly, mommy, the fact that Santorum is a prick to your child means that the intelligent response is for you to be a cunt to his.happy | November 8, 2006, 11:42pm | #
After reflecting on all of these pcitures it occurs to me thatNo more evango's | November 8, 2006, 11:45pm | #
I thought this was a Photoshop edit for 10 minutes & I will forever love H&R even more now.The Wine Commonsewer | November 8, 2006, 11:46pm | #
bio, I guess it was a freudian slip, eh? I didn't even notice it and was baffled at first to see your note.FinFangFoom | November 8, 2006, 11:49pm | #
Jesus people, as long as no one loses an eye, it is still funny.Sandy | November 8, 2006, 11:50pm | #
Wow.GILMORE | November 9, 2006, 12:06am | #
Toshiro =Lord Duppy | November 9, 2006, 12:07am | #
I laughed. Maybe that makes me a bad person (and I do enjoy schadenfreude a bit too much, admittedly). I think she's praying, which is even more hilarious.reader_iam | November 9, 2006, 12:07am | #
I'm a fan of reason and this blog. I am not a fan of Santorum.GILMORE | November 9, 2006, 12:12am | #
A lot of you nitwits are just a mirror image of ol' Ricky.biologist | November 9, 2006, 12:13am | #
Or maybe all the beating up on Julian is just bitterness over Ms. Howleybob newheart | November 9, 2006, 12:17am | #
Those kids are like The Children of the CornKap | November 9, 2006, 12:19am | #
If I understand you correctly, mommy, the fact that Santorum is a prick to your child means that the intelligent response is for you to be a cunt to his.The fact that Santorum outlawed her family I think entitles her to merely laugh at his. He built a career on trying his level best to rend other peoples' families; I cannot feel sympathy for our merely mocking his.
Grand Chalupa | November 9, 2006, 12:38am | #
Wow, this is post 301. I got here late. What's the record for H & R comments?Will Allen | November 9, 2006, 1:09am | #
kap, if Santorum is the sole object of scorn, what is the logical reason for mentioning the kid at all? You are being disingenuous. You have decided that because Santorum is a prick, a third party who can't even defend herself as an adult should be treated with scorn. It is quite reasonable to thus conclude, in a very calm, non foot-stomping manner, that you are an asshole. See, doesn't ratcheting up the contempt with which we view one another, not because we have done something specifically immoral, but only due to our non-voluntary associations with others, improve our social atmosphere?Sandy | November 9, 2006, 1:15am | #
As for those would like people to relax? Well, that's a common, easy response: "Seriously, relax, people."That may be the more Libertarian Party response, but somehow I think inappropriate humor is at least small-l libertarian, if not universal.
The more brave--even more libertarian!--response in certain situation is: Tighten up, people! The go-along or relax response is oh, so sheep-like.
Jim Walsh | November 9, 2006, 1:31am | #
Wow...Santorum and K-Fed get their walking papers within hours of each other.highnumber | November 9, 2006, 1:49am | #
What is the record for # of comments?Kap | November 9, 2006, 2:17am | #
Will,See, doesn't ratcheting up the contempt with which we view one another......by calling people cunts and assholes?
Shem | November 9, 2006, 3:05am | #
Y'know, to be fair, I'm not convinced the kid is all that fat. I think a lot of it is just that dress and it's hideous puffy arms and lack of any belt to keep it from billowing out, combined with the scrunched-up face. Anyone can and will look fat if they wear clothes that are designed to remove the appearance of any sort of shape.God | November 9, 2006, 5:02am | #
Buahahahahahahahahahah.... Its like the reverse of the Adams Family. Shit they scare!Bob | November 9, 2006, 5:06am | #
Why do parents hate their children.edna | November 9, 2006, 8:37am | #
'd probably cry like that too if I thought I might have to move back to Pittsburgh or some other god awful, Pennsylvania place.ed | November 9, 2006, 8:38am | #
Can I be the last one? Please?GILMORE | November 9, 2006, 8:43am | #
many in this thread have specifically stated that it is Santorum's political views and actions which cause the kid to be a legitimate object of ridicule.m. takhallus | November 9, 2006, 8:46am | #
You really are a worthless human being. Deriving pleasure from a child's pain? That's not politics, that's a sickness down deep in your vile little soul. Get help.FinFangFoom | November 9, 2006, 9:03am | #
You know, before this thread gets buried in other posts, somebody at reason should post it up top so we can continue it.ed | November 9, 2006, 9:29am | #
Nah, it's old news.MeanBobMean | November 9, 2006, 9:36am | #
Well, it is funny and the auhtor notes he is not intentionally going after the little girl. But people who use their children as Campaign props get what they are demanding they get.highnumber | November 9, 2006, 10:05am | #
I dunno. Have you ever been to (fill in the blank)?Will Allen | November 9, 2006, 10:18am | #
kap, I'm not offended. I'm merely making the very reasonable observation that people who ridicule a kid becasue they don't like the kid's asshole father (and no, I'm not defending Santorum) are themselves just the mirror image of the same asshole. If they weren't ridiculing the kid the kid because of the kid's father, then some people in this thread wouldn't have gone to such lengths to explain why Santorum was so bad, which I happen to agree with.Lincoln | November 9, 2006, 10:28am | #
daydreaming about Kate Mossindependent worm | November 9, 2006, 10:32am | #
Can't say as i'm real happy with this entry. I've never thought Julian Sanchez added all that much to this blog anyway. Maybe it's time he moves on to the LA Times like the rest of 'em. I think with the firepower that Radley just brought aboard, nobody'd even notice Julian was gone.mk | November 9, 2006, 10:43am | #
I dunno. Have you ever been to (fill in the blank)?Kap | November 9, 2006, 10:48am | #
Will, I was being overly defensive, as I am now convinced I am going to hell for participating in this thread. No hard feelings.Another Goddamned Liberal | November 9, 2006, 10:57am | #
How many tears did Santorum cause with his intolerant views and actions?Pez Head | November 9, 2006, 11:52am | #
That little chum-gulper on the right has the thousand-yard stare of Onan The Republican. Watch out for that little fucker, he's going to be trouble when he grows up. I ga-ron-tee. He's already hatching some plan to "avenge" his deranged father's righteous ouster, you can see it in his eyes, and you can tell by the way he was raised. He's filled with hatred and the fire of publicized shame burns inside him. Daddy got crushed on TV.FinFangFoom | November 9, 2006, 12:04pm | #
Does Reason ever close threads?mediageek | November 9, 2006, 12:15pm | #
All of the moral scolds chiming in on this thread have made it even funnier.Pig Mannix | November 9, 2006, 12:19pm | #
Does Reason ever close threads?dhex | November 9, 2006, 12:50pm | #
yeah i mean this guy said "hey if dudes get married we're going to start pronging dogs and btw other straights will get divorced because TEH GAY is so overpowering etc etc etc etc and that's why we can't have gay marriage" frankly he's lucky we just don't link this to somethingawful.com right off the bat.dhex | November 9, 2006, 12:52pm | #
"You claim that Santorum is intolerant merely because he has defended traditional morality."Dee | November 9, 2006, 12:54pm | #
Isn't this the guy that signed off grant money to study little girls sexual stimuli or some such crap?highnumber | November 9, 2006, 1:10pm | #
No, but I saw a documentary about (fill in the blank) on MSNBC once. Does that count?That liberal media outlet? No way. That does not count. You have to see (fill in the blank) with your own eyes before you can judge them. It's quite pretty actually. The (blank)s are huge - way bigger than they look on TV. Once you're there, you can understand for yourself why they (blank). I came away really believing in a higher (blank).
Flyover Country | November 9, 2006, 1:24pm | #
I think that Julian's post and ridiculous explanation to be tasteless and beneath the standards I expect of reason.dejableus | November 9, 2006, 1:31pm | #
"David said: November 8, 2006, 3:44pm | #Jesus | November 9, 2006, 1:38pm | #
I think that Julian's post and ridiculous explanation to be tasteless and beneath the standards I expect of reason.mk | November 9, 2006, 1:39pm | #
You have to see (fill in the blank) with your own eyes before you can judge them. It's quite pretty actually. The (blank)s are huge - way bigger than they look on TV.dhex | November 9, 2006, 2:10pm | #
"Flyover, you're being a sissy."ed | November 9, 2006, 2:18pm | #
I think I'd cry too if my doll just bit my nipple.Whatev | November 9, 2006, 2:28pm | #
I think Frowny is the best. She is trying SO hard to look sad... but in reality she can't wait to go home and tell her diary about all the fun she and her friends had at the meth-fueled lipstick party, while Daddy and Mommy were out campaigning.GILMORE | November 9, 2006, 2:58pm | #
You really are a worthless human being. Deriving pleasure from a child's pain? That's not politics, that's a sickness down deep in your vile little soul. Get helphighnumber | November 9, 2006, 3:12pm | #
mk,Bon Bon | November 9, 2006, 3:15pm | #
Senate campaign race: $3,000,000 dollarsmk | November 9, 2006, 3:38pm | #
You would have made a great guidance counselor. In the middle ages.Jesus | November 9, 2006, 3:53pm | #
I'm sorry GILMORE but, after defending your right to find crying children funny, your accusing someone else of being a lousy candidate for a guidance counselor got my eyes rolling.mk | November 9, 2006, 4:09pm | #
Oh,I was thinking regular school guidance counselor, not Jesus Camp guidance counselor.Jesus | November 9, 2006, 4:15pm | #
Context, schmontext. I'll give that girl something to cry about.Jake Blues | November 9, 2006, 4:41pm | #
How much for the little girl?Pro Libertate | November 9, 2006, 5:04pm | #
How much for the women?Mark Foley | November 9, 2006, 5:10pm | #
How much for the boys?highnumber | November 9, 2006, 5:28pm | #
Who is that standing in the balcony in the upper left corner? It looks like Michael Meyers from the Halloween movies.highnumber | November 9, 2006, 5:44pm | #
I am big enough to admit when I need help. I don't want the gov't to step in. I just want my friend the webmaster to help me out.highnumber's evil twin | November 9, 2006, 6:08pm | #
No, keep it going. Say something incendiary, quick!highnumber | November 9, 2006, 7:20pm | #
Phew! That killed it.highnumber | November 9, 2006, 8:16pm | #
Goddammit!GILMORE | November 9, 2006, 8:26pm | #
I'm sorry GILMORE but, after defending your right to find crying children funny, your accusing someone else of being a lousy candidate for a guidance counselor got my eyes rolling.GILMORE | November 9, 2006, 8:47pm | #
One last thoughthighnumber | November 9, 2006, 8:55pm | #
It will not die!!!!! Why can't I just walk away? I think the law of diminishing returns will save me. I am going to leave the office now, but I know that when I get home, I'll see the computer, and I'll think, "Maybe I can take one last look at the crying Santorum girl, then I'll check my email," but no, I'll have to scroll down and see if anybody wrote anything likeJesus | November 9, 2006, 8:56pm | #
Also, i hear Laughter is Gods Sunshinekate | November 9, 2006, 10:42pm | #
I wonder what they told the poor kid was riding on this election. I mean the only reason I'd have gotten that wigged out if my dad lost a job was if I'd thought they'd have to send me off to the Poor Farm.shandango | November 9, 2006, 11:05pm | #
I didn't even think it was a real picture at first...it looked like something the Onion photoshopped. Her and her doll are wearing matching dresses. Clearly it was planned that she should be holding a doll, that kind of coordination does not just happen. Unless all her clothes are made of the same bolt of red plaid fabric. She looks less like she is crying, more like she is pouting in the most unflattering way. It just looks really odd, that's why it's funny.Lord Duppy | November 9, 2006, 11:39pm | #
I've never thought Julian Sanchez added all that much to this blog anyway.Baby Jane | November 10, 2006, 12:35am | #
Kinda looks like something Norman Rockwell would have painted if he worked for Mad Magazine.Pig Mannix | November 10, 2006, 1:42am | #
Kinda looks like something Norman Rockwell would have painted if he worked for Mad Magazine.Frater Plotter | November 10, 2006, 3:01am | #
As a former fundamentalist child (happily reformed -- an atheist libertarian adult, huzzah!) I have to sympathize with M. Santorum's kids. It sucks to find out that your parents are _not_ really so much in touch with God and the world, but rather are just another misbegotten spawn of the uncaring universe.Kate S. | November 10, 2006, 9:56am | #
Since when is pitching a crying fit because she didn't get what she wanted "suffering"?mk | November 10, 2006, 10:44am | #
One picture is worth a thousand abstinence education classes.highnumber | November 10, 2006, 11:33am | #
"Pansy-asses like aaa" are actually Canadian.JM | November 10, 2006, 1:55pm | #
The whole bunch looks like the Addams Family.Christopher Gillibrand | November 10, 2006, 3:30pm | #
"Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not; for of such is the kingdom of God."highnumber | November 10, 2006, 4:03pm | #
Well, Mr Gillibrand, I would comfort her and try to make her understand that she does not have to cry about my career taking a different direction. I would try to make her laugh at herself then for taking it all so seriously. What would you do?mk | November 10, 2006, 4:24pm | #
highnumber,You guys are a bunch of prudes | November 10, 2006, 4:26pm | #
I know! I know! Rape her. C'mon, now that's funny!highnumber | November 10, 2006, 4:28pm | #
mk,mk | November 10, 2006, 4:50pm | #
I just want it to get to 400. Is that so wrong?Jesus | November 10, 2006, 5:27pm | #
I just want it to get to 400. Is that so wrong?396 | November 10, 2006, 5:54pm | #
396397 | November 10, 2006, 5:54pm | #
397398 | November 10, 2006, 5:54pm | #
398399 | November 10, 2006, 5:55pm | #
399400 | November 10, 2006, 5:55pm | #
400. Happy?highnumber | November 10, 2006, 6:17pm | #
More! More! More! Don't let it stop.highnumber | November 10, 2006, 6:17pm | #
Actually, 400 did it for me.boogiechillen | November 10, 2006, 8:47pm | #
At first, I felt bad laughing at the photo. Then I remembered that my tax dollars went to pay for this kid's cyber-school although she's probably spent less than 10 days in PA since birth. The kid on the right is just plain scary. You guys are on the target with him looking like Kevin (Elijah Wood's character) in Sin City.adam | November 10, 2006, 11:21pm | #
Santorum isn't a fundie, he's Catholic. At least get your facts straightWBY | November 11, 2006, 12:39am | #
"But popular rage,Joe | November 11, 2006, 7:52am | #
So many comments from the folks who gave us the "Mean People Suck" bumper sticker. You are such noble promoters of tolerance. Can anyone say, “hypocrite”?MainstreamMan | November 11, 2006, 11:49am | #
How do you tell the difference between dead babies and live babies when you are unloading them from the back of a pickup with a pitchfork?Isaac Bartram | November 11, 2006, 1:58pm | #
Santorum isn't a fundie, he's Catholic. At least get your facts straightNo sense of humor, no, none | November 11, 2006, 6:07pm | #
If only his mother or grandmother had been there! What a hoot it would have been to mock her too!Harmonika | November 11, 2006, 8:49pm | #
I vote we puree the whole lot of those kids, stick a funnel in mom's snootch, and pour the little motherfuckers back to whence they came.sdfsds | November 11, 2006, 10:15pm | #
You are a piece of shit.art | November 12, 2006, 3:09am | #
This website is called "reason.com?" Interesting, then, that your comments re: the photo (and most of the comments in response) are so totally devoid of any reason, logic, or class.Chris | November 12, 2006, 1:51pm | #
Wow. This post and the many of the affirming comments remind me more of a Kos diary than something I'd expect to read here.patrick cusack | November 12, 2006, 1:54pm | #
What happened to this site?maozowdong | November 12, 2006, 1:57pm | #
Good thing people like you all are being aborted out of existence. You all stink like piss on a hot plate.Finn | November 12, 2006, 2:15pm | #
The "your tears are so yummy and sweet" line from Eric Cartman on South Park is really funny because it's a cartoon with imaginary characters.JustDroppingBy | November 12, 2006, 2:18pm | #
I don't like Santorum some of the comments here were very funny. But it isn't cool to make fun of an 8 year old. Wait a while she will grow up and have a pizza face then you can really have fun at her expense.a real Sheila | November 12, 2006, 2:21pm | #
I am an "uber-conservative," alerted to this thread via Free Republic, but I must confess, I've laughed out loud at some of the comments here.John Tyler | November 12, 2006, 3:21pm | #
Making fun of crying kids gets you off, eh? What a pathetic waste of the Earth's resources you are.Roz | November 12, 2006, 3:33pm | #
What makes me laugh is the average IQ displayed by the jokers over here. Reminds me of a typical 11-year-old boy who blows milk out of his nose laughing whenever anyone says "fart" or "breast".Religious Dick | November 12, 2006, 3:34pm | #
I see we're hearing from the Crotch of America Choir now.PaulCameron is right | November 12, 2006, 4:09pm | #
Homosexuals like Sanchez should avoid wallowing in evil publicly. It only confirms what conservatives say about their heartlessness, sadism, and utter depravity.Unknown Pundit | November 12, 2006, 4:11pm | #
What a silly and mean-spirited post, picking on a little girl. I support most libertarian views and defend them all the time around the net. Thanks for making my job that much harder. I used to subscribe to Reason, but it's gone way down hill in tone since Postrel left. Snide, snarky stuff like this is the reason I dropped my subscription.Disgusted | November 12, 2006, 5:57pm | #
Those of you making fun of the Santorum's deceased child should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves. I lost my precious son when he was 11 months old. It is a searing pain that hasn't gone away, even after 12 years. There is NOTHING humurous about dead children. Making fun of the eight year old would be embarrasing to most adolescent boys, but each to his own. These tasteless comments about the baby are waaaay over the line of acceptable discourse.Chucky | November 12, 2006, 6:24pm | #
Senate campaign race: $3,000,000 dollarsDave | November 12, 2006, 7:33pm | #
How can I "share" your sense of humor when you don't have one?Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste | November 13, 2006, 12:45am | #
Do I hear 500?Scott Tenorman | November 13, 2006, 3:58am | #
Avenge me!Chris | November 13, 2006, 9:55am | #
Your joy at the misery of a child shows you are a loathsome human being.Hunter Baker | November 13, 2006, 10:43am | #
Whenever I start thinking I might be a libertarian, I run into this kind of heartless crap and the urge goes out the window. This lovely posting will keep me out of the movement another year.S.C. | November 13, 2006, 11:50am | #
Wow. What a bunch of assholes. This is the first time I've come here, and the last time; if I want mindless bile I'll go to DailyKos.Daemp424 | November 13, 2006, 12:24pm | #
Wow! Such an intellectual discussion! Let's attack a man's family because we disagree with his values. And let's not forget the name calling. I would thought that readers of a magazing called REASON would actually have something worth saying. I am wrong.Demographer | November 13, 2006, 1:27pm | #
Most libertarians are childless potheads, homosexuals, computer professionals or policy wonks. Their movement is a bigger abortion than liberalism.CG | November 13, 2006, 3:56pm | #
I'm sorry now that I let my subscription to Reason lapse several years ago as I am not able to cancel it in response to this unbelievable churlishness.DesScorp | November 13, 2006, 7:26pm | #
"Man, I hope you guys never have kids of your own."Jeff Culbreath | November 13, 2006, 11:04pm | #
"Most libertarians are childless potheads, homosexuals, computer professionals or policy wonks."Paul | November 13, 2006, 11:49pm | #
Most libertarians are childless potheads, homosexuals, computer professionals or policy wonksJeff Culbreath | November 14, 2006, 12:22am | #
"I resemble that remark. Except I have a child of age four. Eh well, 2 out of 4 ain't bad."John D. | November 14, 2006, 7:04am | #
[i]I thought that last night. No way I would have dragged my kids out on that stage. That was obviously a tough night for them, too.highnumber (having a relapse) | November 14, 2006, 10:35am | #
Crying Santorum girl,Popeye | November 14, 2006, 11:19am | #
Don't forget the ones who run tatoo and body-piercing joints. Oh, and some are into bail bonds. Nice crowdAllegra | November 14, 2006, 12:35pm | #
I'm chiming in pretty late here but honestly... the most amusing part of this post is how worked up people are getting. The look on that kid's face is priceless. On the other hand, I was one of the lucky few to rise from a conservative Christian background relatively unscathed and I feel, not sorry that her idiot daddy lost the election, but sorry that it's going to be a long time, if ever, before she and her siblings have a normal life. The things conservative Christians and nationalistic morons do to children ought to be illegal. To paraphrase someone's post, man I hope you overreacting guys never have any kids of your own.John | November 14, 2006, 12:52pm | #
Except for some of Ron Bailey's stuff, I haven't found an article worth reading on Reason for years. Your magazine is boring and predictable and I can see now, with this post, reprehensible.Maalouf | November 14, 2006, 12:53pm | #
Funny joke. Really, you slay me. Know what would be funnier? Seeing your family members crying someday when somebody kicks the crap out of you for being a f*cking azzhole. Now, THAT will be hilarious.Florence | November 14, 2006, 12:53pm | #
Santorum is a Catholic.Steve in Texas | November 14, 2006, 12:54pm | #
It is odd to see a politician with his family on stage. Totally unprecedented!Cycloptichorn | November 14, 2006, 12:56pm | #
Priceless.Brian | November 14, 2006, 12:59pm | #
"The things conservative Christians and nationalistic morons do to children ought to be illegal."A Hermit | November 14, 2006, 1:00pm | #
I'm happy to see Santorum gone, but you just threw "Reason" out the window...wingnutx | November 14, 2006, 1:05pm | #
When my bleeding-heart sister lost her baby to SIDS, she cuddled it for a couple of hours. I even held it for a while. Looked like he was sleeping.Bryan | November 14, 2006, 1:08pm | #
No, I guess I don't get your sense of humor. Hey, I can appreciate that sort of joke...but stuff like that is better off the cuff, not as a blog post where people can comment and tell you how unfunny you are.Silky Johnson | November 14, 2006, 1:40pm | #
If I believed in God I would pray that Sanchez would get a horrific case of pancreatic cancer and die. As it is, I hope someone murders any children he has or ever has. That goes double for the rest of the Kos Kids on this thread.V the K | November 14, 2006, 1:43pm | #
Man, I haven't taken this much pleasure in the suffering of a small child in days.Frank | November 14, 2006, 1:44pm | #
Come on, we all know why some hard-core Libertarians can be such vengeful, vindictive sore winners, don't we?rlr | November 14, 2006, 1:46pm | #
gaius marius said: lol -- republicans and fellow conservatives (if in fact you are), you should be able to take your decimations with more grace than this.Corey | November 14, 2006, 1:46pm | #
Jon H.--d.kelly | November 14, 2006, 1:59pm | #
hands off chelsea, but the santorum childrenBrian | November 14, 2006, 1:59pm | #
Where's the photo of Bob Casey's victory photo?Joe | November 14, 2006, 2:05pm | #
While I don't think taking glee in his daughter crying is fair game, I would like to point out that Rick Santorum has certainly taken glee in insulting children with gay parents, by telling them their parents are perverts and disgusting immoralists. Here's hoping the young Miss Santorum doesn't take that lesson to heart.Brian | November 14, 2006, 2:16pm | #
Oh please, I attended public schools for 12 years and they sucked hard. I learned virtually everything I needed to on my own, by reading books on my own at home where I couldn't be distracted by the other "students".Lee | November 14, 2006, 2:23pm | #
I found it funny. Mainly because it demonstrates how much of a complete tool Rick is. Putting his family out there for a CONCESSION speech is just wrong.John | November 14, 2006, 2:28pm | #
Before you put a hex on him and his family don't forget that Santorum was on the compassionate side of the following liberal pet-issues:FdS | November 14, 2006, 2:51pm | #
"The things conservative Christians and nationalistic morons do to children ought to be illegal."Joe | November 14, 2006, 2:59pm | #
Parents don't own their kids; they are guardians and custodians of them. So they have a duty to act in their childrens' best interest.RichardT | November 14, 2006, 3:02pm | #
I'm not "going after" Santorum's daughterJoe | November 14, 2006, 3:05pm | #
Ah yes, Africa: one-stop shop for any person who's done something controversial or questionable. Just pose with some famine victim or war orphan and watch your public image improve. "Why, no one who would care about a poor African can be bad!"V the K | November 14, 2006, 3:15pm | #
Recurring Theme: "It's okay to mock Rick Santorum's dead child because Santorum doesn't support the gay agenda."V the K | November 14, 2006, 3:25pm | #
(Dead baby jokes have a certain cache in my social circles).Yeah, they did when I was in Second Grade, too.
Brian | November 14, 2006, 3:28pm | #
What public school did you attend Joe? Did you attend the ones here in DC, where kids are regularly shot, half don't graduate and the per student expenditure is over $11,000 per year? How about the public schools in New Orleans? LA? NYC? Newark? Miami?FdS | November 14, 2006, 3:29pm | #
Apparently in these social circles, dead-baby jokes are the pinnacle of wit and sophistication -- but mourning the loss of your child is "creepy."Joe | November 14, 2006, 3:34pm | #
I never said it was ok to make fun of her. And while you're crying your eyes out over how mean people are being, why don't share your outrage at Santorum telling kids with gay parents they are living immoral and wicked lives? Oh that's right - you don't care about that. Guess that makes you the hypocrite.Brian | November 14, 2006, 3:38pm | #
How "regular" is "regular" enough for you Joe? Once a month, or is once a year tolerable?V the K | November 14, 2006, 3:41pm | #
Not "crying my eyes out," just shaking my head in disgust and contempt at how juvenile and hatred-filled y'all are.Ever_Falling | November 14, 2006, 3:45pm | #
isn't it great that we can argue over a picture? If I was 8 I would cry too. If I was a mother I'd see my child crying and lead her off stage. I am neither of these and I wasn't there so my opinion can't count. Wow, this wasn't even really an article but it's spawned debate over what the family should be and other compleatly unrelated nonsence (including this saying that it's nonsence). We've stopped looking at them as people and now we're looking at them as ideals or figurative models of whatever. Is this girl hurt? Will she ever see this post? What does it matter?Mike B | November 14, 2006, 3:53pm | #
Wow, be ashamed you nasty little twit.Joe | November 14, 2006, 3:57pm | #
Oh right - some schools aren't perfect so let's just give up and hide. Good thing you're not fighting the terrorists. Ya know, I once saw a car run a red light - that PROVES that we shouldn't have streets!V the K | November 14, 2006, 4:05pm | #
Bono praised the work Rick Santorum did on behalf of the world's poor. I guess that makes Bono a hate-filled right-winger now. Santorum also worked to secure millions in research to help autistic kids.Ever_Falling | November 14, 2006, 4:12pm | #
Come on. When are people going to learn that just because you contribute to charity that that doesn't make you a good person by defalt? I can go throw 50 cents into a Salvation Army tin then go kick a puppy when no one is looking.emerod | November 14, 2006, 4:39pm | #
I think the photo is funny, for a minute--it's classic schadenfreude.V the K | November 14, 2006, 4:48pm | #
Nothing like Reason columnists...best known for telling Christian children that their parents are all stupid hypocrites.joe | November 14, 2006, 4:53pm | #
Rick Santorum is a stupid hypocrite. That was all I said. One of my favorite lines of his: "If we allow people to do whatever they want, they'll just drive through red lights!" How that idiot got through law school is beyond me. Next time you heard a conservative lecture about not enough arithmetic in school ask them to condemn Santorum's stupidity too. But they won't: one is wrongheaded feel-good policies, the other is just one person's beliefs. Hypocrites.dhex | November 14, 2006, 5:40pm | #
holy shit can i elect all of you president?highnumber (you're dealing with a hardcore addict) | November 14, 2006, 5:47pm | #
also: bottom post!dhex | November 14, 2006, 5:49pm | #
I SAID BOTTOM POST!Shem | November 14, 2006, 5:52pm | #
And I am completely disgusted that you people call yourself progressives.dhex | November 14, 2006, 6:07pm | #
you goddmamn lollertarians with your permissive asexual sexuality and all those piercings! go smoke some pot while rome burns, fuckers.V the K | November 14, 2006, 6:07pm | #
Wheeler, it's unfortunate there aren't more progressives like you. I despise Nancy Pelosi and everything she stands for. But if one of her grandchildren died, I would never think of making obnoxious, snarky comments about it in a weblog.highnumber | November 14, 2006, 6:12pm | #
Why do so many people conflate libertarians and libertines?FdS | November 14, 2006, 6:14pm | #
"Why do so many people conflate libertarians and libertines?"dhex | November 14, 2006, 6:14pm | #
"As for libertarians, well, libertarians are uber-materialists who think that all of society's problems can be solved with open borders, legalized drugs, and unbridled hedonism."V the K | November 14, 2006, 6:16pm | #
Why do so many people conflate libertarians and libertines?Maybe because libertarians champion drug legalization, anything-goes sexual mores, and, as we see in this forum, viciously attack those who believe in traditional moral values.
V the K | November 14, 2006, 6:20pm | #
Why do so many people conflate libertarians and libertines?Take for example a fellow who comments at the GayPatriot blog under the nick "kdogg." He loudly proclaims that he's a libertarian at every opportunity. But he strongly supports the oligarchic use of courts to impose his social views; whether it be same-sex-marriage or any other issue in which the democratic consensus is at odds with how he feels things should be.
highnumber | November 14, 2006, 7:05pm | #
Okay, I'm stooping, but here we go...libertarians champion drug legalizationLegalization, not use. It is your body. Do with it as you wish.
anything-goes sexual moresIt is your body. Do with it as you wish.
viciously attack those who believe in traditional moral valuesSir, I am married and have a family. It is increasingly rare that I attack them.
Take for example a fellow who...No, I will not, unless you will take as examples Adolf Hitler for right-wingers and Josef Stalin for left-wingers. (Godwin has been invoked a few times already, so I'm clear.)
Ed Darrell | November 14, 2006, 7:27pm | #
Julian, I think your post unnecessarily poked fun at a sad little girl.Rick Santorum | November 14, 2006, 7:31pm | #
Julian,Highlander | November 14, 2006, 7:34pm | #
Who are you to define traditional moral values? My idea of values are kindness, decency, tolerance, and letting people live in peace. Neither Santorum nor the original poster here seem to follow those.dawnsblood | November 14, 2006, 7:47pm | #
Hit and run is right. Julian, screw your PS, this is as wrong as the right's attacks on Chelsea were.Ever_Falling | November 14, 2006, 8:12pm | #
"As for Ever-Falling-Past-Any-Hope-Of-Getting-The-Point, no, merely extending charity and compassion to fellow human beings does not demonstrate virtue. No, in this day and age, virtue is demonstrated by mouthing the proper politically correct talking points vis-a-vis "diversity" "social justice" "same sex marriage" and "global warming." As long as you parrot the right talking points, you can kick all the puppies, ridicule all the little girls, and sexually exploit all the interns and pages you want, and the left will sing your praises loud and far."Sam Boogliodemus | November 14, 2006, 9:50pm | #
So... The true face of Libertarianism exposed. Now I can understand why you voted for BlueBoy (Stan Jones). Is this really the face of Libertarianism? Pathetic.highnumber | November 14, 2006, 10:16pm | #
So, have we finally driven all the Republicans out of the Libertarian Party?Dan Kauffman | November 14, 2006, 10:20pm | #
"Yeah, but going after his 8 year old girl, and his deceased child, is."Eeyore | November 14, 2006, 10:23pm | #
That was completely lacking in class. It also snuffed out any lingering regret I had over letting my subscription lapse, so it wasn't entirely without value. I miss Virginia Postrel.highnumber | November 14, 2006, 10:32pm | #
Anyway, now that we can finally be ourselves again, like I was saying...W.W. & The Deliverance Dancecard | November 14, 2006, 10:39pm | #
Funnier would be Dick Cheney taking Nanny Lugosi hunting... And well, to see the gushing stump that once held that botoxed Berkeleyan monstrosity would be more delightful than Borat.Jennifer | November 14, 2006, 10:43pm | #
As long as you parrot the right talking points, you can kick all the puppies, ridicule all the little girls, and sexually exploit all the interns and pages you want, and the left will sing your praises loud and far.Shem | November 14, 2006, 11:38pm | #
If I want to read stuff like this I can go to DailyKos or the Democratic Underground.DesScorp | November 15, 2006, 2:35am | #
"Scratch the a libertarian, and there's usually a fascist lurking beneath."DesScorp | November 15, 2006, 2:39am | #
"So, have we finally driven all the Republicans out of the Libertarian Party?Jake Boone | November 15, 2006, 4:03am | #
My god. It's full of comments.Ronnie Rose | November 15, 2006, 4:15am | #
I had a subscription to Reason for 15 years and I am a card carrying Libertarian. Reason was my favorite magazine. I sent subscriptions to friends as gifts. It is sad to see a magazine with such integrity sink into the Daily Kos style of journalism. I was once a very proud reader. Then I moved to buying it occasionally and, finally, to reading the freebees on the internet. Now I am ashamed of the magazine, don't subscribe to it and will most likely stop reading it entirely.mk | November 15, 2006, 10:36am | #
Geez, why don't you guys go and marry Postrel if you love her so much?dhex | November 15, 2006, 11:25am | #
"Geez, why don't you guys go and marry Postrel if you love her so much?"highnumber | November 15, 2006, 11:34am | #
Belated apologies to the Aristocrats for my post from November 14, 2006, 10:32pm.mk | November 15, 2006, 11:38am | #
well, I admit that I sighed a bit when I was writing it. Postrel is definitely marriable from what I can tell.dhex | November 15, 2006, 11:49am | #
hey laura is preventing gays from marrying righteous or merely awesome? i have a hard time telling the difference sometimes.FinFangFoom | November 15, 2006, 11:56am | #
I think this thread will keep growing until it consumes the internet.highnumber | November 15, 2006, 12:47pm | #
Which one of Santorum's kids do you think has the longest tail?dhex | November 15, 2006, 1:05pm | #
whichever one they decided to give over to satan first?emerod | November 15, 2006, 2:23pm | #
joe irrationally opined:FinFangFoom | November 15, 2006, 3:27pm | #
They'd probably learn more at the country club.highnumber | November 15, 2006, 4:26pm | #
Laura,highnumber | November 15, 2006, 4:39pm | #
highnumber I would say you have the longest tail.Laura | November 15, 2006, 4:46pm | #
aaa aaa, it should not be unexpected that "people" who have no qualms about allowing children to die because their parents can't afford medical care, would have any qualms about making fun of children or telling an 8 year old to "grow up". Did you expect to come here and find people who actually have a concience? Libertarianism is a monstrous ideology and its adherents are inhuman. How pathetic and cowardly it is for adults to attack and mock children.highnumber | November 15, 2006, 5:01pm | #
Laura,Ever-Falling-Past-Any-Hope-Of-Getting-The-Point | November 15, 2006, 6:01pm | #
That picture is so stupid, it's funny. Millions of children cry, why don't people lighten up? Her dad is smiling. Her mom looks... I don't know WHAT she is thinking and there is nothing there to do with gay marriage. THIS DEBATE CAME FROM NOWHERE. :-0 Amazing. Absurdist Amazing. Wouldn't it be great if presidential debates went like this? We'd show them a picture, give them one fact about it and see where we go.happy | November 15, 2006, 11:45pm | #
Best thread ever. And now the idiots freepers are here. Absoultely brilliant.dhex | November 15, 2006, 11:54pm | #
"Would any sane person ever allow these spoiled, hate-filled, self-indulgent human beings to be in charge of anything?"highnumber | November 16, 2006, 8:27am | #
Last what, Shem?mk | November 16, 2006, 11:44am | #
I invoked testicle crushing several hundred posts ago and now I find myself amongst those who need their dicks cut off.dhex | November 16, 2006, 12:22pm | #
WAR IS PEACEhighnumber | November 16, 2006, 1:54pm | #
Threads like this are the reason that most people think the internet is crawling with cranks and jackasses. Regular commenters excluded.dhex | November 16, 2006, 3:57pm | #
nothing.highnumber | November 16, 2006, 4:24pm | #
I think the "freepers" are gone.dhex | November 16, 2006, 4:35pm | #
wish on this, death boy!highnumber | November 16, 2006, 4:53pm | #
What if they never close the thread while it is still being commented on?Walto | November 16, 2006, 6:54pm | #
You mean the internet ISN'T crawling with cranks and jackasses?highnumber | November 16, 2006, 8:09pm | #
Walto,happy | November 17, 2006, 1:53am | #
I keep waiting for this thread to be listed on memepoolhighnumber | November 17, 2006, 8:24am | #
Looks like we've finally rid ourselves of that pesky dhex, eh, my precious?highnumber | November 17, 2006, 11:32am | #
Wave your hand so I can see you.highnumber | November 17, 2006, 1:49pm | #
How many fingers am I holding up?Sandy | November 17, 2006, 3:20pm | #
Sorry Dhex, but I had to announce that this will be my Christmas card image...with suitable holiday-themed Photoshopping, of course.highnumber | November 17, 2006, 3:36pm | #
Geez, people. Get a life.highnumber | November 17, 2006, 5:26pm | #
2nd thought:Beth | November 17, 2006, 8:37pm | #
Well, I'm not a "freeper," but I'll say this: This post (especially) and the sycophant comments cheering it on are why the Libertarians will always be collecting dust in the margins.Darleen | November 17, 2006, 11:31pm | #
What Beth saidhighnumber | November 18, 2006, 1:30am | #
And counting?highnumber | November 18, 2006, 1:49am | #
Let me offer an apology to all those who have been offended here.dhex | November 18, 2006, 2:43am | #
"One doesn't attack children. Period. "Beth | November 18, 2006, 9:29am | #
I'm guessing the average age of most of the commenters here is about 15. Someday, this picture and this thread will be seen by the Santorum family, and it's just plain mean.highnumber | November 18, 2006, 10:38am | #
Right, Beth. Have you checked the other pages at reason.com? No? I'll wait for you to get back to us.Darleen | November 18, 2006, 10:55am | #
dhexhighnumber | November 18, 2006, 11:23am | #
Darleen,highnumber | November 18, 2006, 12:09pm | #
Non-libertarians who keep finding this thread:Shem | November 18, 2006, 12:11pm | #
OH, I see, he questioned the wisdom of radical change to established law concerning the configuration of the PUBLIC institution of marriage.highnumber's pep squad | November 18, 2006, 12:25pm | #
Cheer Cheer for highnumber guy!Darleen | November 18, 2006, 12:53pm | #
he said that children of gays had abominations for parents.Shem | November 18, 2006, 1:11pm | #
He equated homosexuality with beastiality. In an interview with the AP, he said that being tolerant of homosexuality would lead to beastiality being accepted. To say nothing of all the less egregious comments he's made about gay adoption. What exactly is the child of a gay parent supposed to make of a comment like that?highnumber | November 18, 2006, 1:33pm | #
Shem,Darleen | November 18, 2006, 2:18pm | #
He equated homosexuality with beastialityhighnumber | November 18, 2006, 3:10pm | #
I don't have time for this right now.Shem | November 18, 2006, 4:38pm | #
"Yes, but [freedom] destroys the basic unit of our society because it condones behavior that’s antithetical to strong healthy families. Whether it’s polygamy, whether it’s adultery, where it’s sodomy, all of those things, are antithetical to a healthy, stable, traditional family."highnumber | November 19, 2006, 11:29am | #
Thank you, Shem.highnumber | November 19, 2006, 6:45pm | #
Your Christ can't help you here.happy | November 19, 2006, 9:33pm | #
"Someday, this picture and this thread will be seen by the Santorum family, and it's just plain mean."highnumber | November 20, 2006, 1:09pm | #
Darleen,dhex | November 20, 2006, 3:25pm | #
"OH, I see, he questioned the wisdom of radical change to established law concerning the configuration of the PUBLIC institution of marriage."highnumber | November 20, 2006, 3:55pm | #
I've done a little research. Threads from November 6 are starting to close to comments. Comment threads must be set to expire after 2 weeks. We're on for Wednesday. I hope you guys aren't working half-days. You might be stuck in the car when post the last comment.Shem | November 21, 2006, 1:03am | #
Just wanted to get this on the record;highnumber | November 21, 2006, 10:08am | #
Shem,Jake Boone | November 21, 2006, 4:11pm | #
I got first post on this monstrosity. There's gotta be some sort of prize for that, right?highnumber | November 21, 2006, 10:16pm | #
It's not nearly as cool as the prize for last post.highnumber | November 22, 2006, 1:25pm | #
We got more time, don't we?highnumber | November 22, 2006, 1:41pm | #
Well, it looks like I may be the last. Shucks! I don't know what to say. I didn't really expect this, so I don't have anything prepared. I'd like to thank all the little people.
Reason on Facebook
Reason on Twitter
Reason on YouTube
Reason RSS
