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Hope Dawns for a Manilow-Rotten-Guthrie Supergroup

Woody Guthrie's kid endorses the libertarian:
Republican presidential candidate and Texas Congressman Ron Paul's campaign has been endorsed by legendary folk singer-songwriter Arlo Guthrie.

Guthrie, known for a series of hits including "Alice’s Restaurant," issued the following endorsement of Dr. Paul:

"I love this guy. Dr. Paul is the only candidate I know of who would have signed the Constitution of The United States had he been there. I'm with him, because he seems to be the only candidate who actually believes it has as much relevance today as it did a couple of hundred years ago. I look forward to the day when we can work out the differences we have with the same revolutionary vision and enthusiasm that is our American legacy."
Here's Arlo condemning trade barriers:

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Comments to "Hope Dawns for a Manilow-Rotten-Guthrie Supergroup":

Click 'n' Learn | January 29, 2008, 3:54pm | #

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he only have two hits, both of them horrific and none within the past thirty years? Also, wasn't one of them about a train to New Orleans, and who that we know is from Louisiana?

jackanapestarian | January 29, 2008, 3:57pm | #

"A series" can mean two, I suppose.

highnumber | January 29, 2008, 3:58pm | #

Yer wrong!
"Coming in to Los Angeles" was also a hit.

Kwix | January 29, 2008, 4:01pm | #

I'm holding out 'til I see who Jimmy Buffett supports. Now there's a man who knows how to make a string of chart toppers.

Warren | January 29, 2008, 4:02pm | #

That was horrible. If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.

Sing it loud. Amen brother.

Tom Walls | January 29, 2008, 4:03pm | #

Once someone asked Ron who his favorite artists were. He said he liked the Kingston Trio (square!) and Arlo Guthrie (kinda cool).

BakedPenguin | January 29, 2008, 4:04pm | #

Coming in to Los Angeles was also his best song, IMO. I once saw a Japanese copy of the Woodstock album that had the lyrics as:

"Coming in to Los Angeles - Bringing in a couple of geese"

ClubMedSux | January 29, 2008, 4:07pm | #

Also, wasn't one of them about a train to New Orleans, and who that we know is from Louisiana?

As a Chicagoan and Cubs fan, it is my duty to point out that "City of New Orleans," while made famous by Arlo Guthrie, was actually penned by Steve Goodman.

ClubMedSux | January 29, 2008, 4:09pm | #

Oh, and technically it should be a Manilow-Rotten-Guthrie-Mayer supergroup, at least if John Mayer's drunken ramblings are to be believed.

Pro Libertate | January 29, 2008, 4:11pm | #

I'm holding out for the Blues Brothers' endorsement.

Jesse Walker | January 29, 2008, 4:12pm | #

I guess I'm showing my age by forgetting that John Mayer exists.

Warty | January 29, 2008, 4:12pm | #

I'm waiting for Glenn Danzig's endorsement.

Bryan | January 29, 2008, 4:13pm | #

The addition of John Mayer, however, makes the group 25% less super.

JL | January 29, 2008, 4:15pm | #

Krist Novoselic has also endorsed Ron Paul and would make an excellent addition to the supergroup.

Tom Walls | January 29, 2008, 4:15pm | #

I once saw this old hippie husband/wife team serve up a grating version of Guthrie's "Good marnin' America, how are ya?", and oh how I have disliked that song ever since.

Buffet is horrible (sorry Eric Dondero, I know you're a big fan). He's nothing but a dirty saltwater hippie redneck cheeseball.

JL | January 29, 2008, 4:16pm | #

Kurt Cobain was asked if he'd also endorse him, but he said he didn't want to jump the gun.

The Wine Commonsewer | January 29, 2008, 4:22pm | #

Kingston Trio (square!)

Now don't be dissin' the Trio man, the Kingston Trio had THE ORIGINAL anti-war folk song......

Pro Libertate | January 29, 2008, 4:22pm | #

Warty,

Danzig's endorsing somebody's mother.

The Wine Commonsewer | January 29, 2008, 4:24pm | #

Doubt Buffet will go for RP......

Buffet is horrible

You ain't lived 'til you've been to a Parrothead Parking Lot Party. It's like a Deadhead event only for Parrotheads.

Joe Allen | January 29, 2008, 4:24pm | #

Now don't be dissin' the Trio man, the Kingston Trio had THE ORIGINAL anti-war folk song......

I actually agree with Winey! This must surely portend the apocolypse.

The Wine Commonsewer | January 29, 2008, 4:25pm | #

Well, JL, as my buddy the Col says, Kurt, you shot the wrong Cobain.

The Wine Commonsewer | January 29, 2008, 4:26pm | #

I actually agree with Winey! This must surely portend the apocolypse.

Drink!

I'm buying.

Kurt Cobain | January 29, 2008, 4:28pm | #

Kurt Cobain was asked if he'd also endorse him, but he said he didn't want to jump the gun.

I swear that I don't have a gun
No I don't have a gun...

Shawn | January 29, 2008, 4:30pm | #

I'll confess, I've loved "Alice's Restaurant" since the first time I heard it. I try to catch it every year on Thanksgiving. My continuing love of the song may be due to that being the only time I listen to it. And some years I miss it.

Tom Walls | January 29, 2008, 4:32pm | #

Yeah, I have softened my position on the Trio a little bit. It's just that when I used to rifle through record bins in thrift stores, there were soooo many Kingston Trio records.

The best part of that was finding whacked-out religious records from the late '60s/early '70s. I inadvertently found the one where the Negativland got the "Christianity is stupid! Communism is good!" soundbite.

ClubMedSux | January 29, 2008, 4:33pm | #

You ain't lived 'til you've been to a Parrothead Parking Lot Party. It's like a Deadhead event only for Parrotheads.

Parrotheads = people who are too big of wusses to go all the way and be Deadheads.

The Wine Commonsewer | January 29, 2008, 4:36pm | #

Parrotheads = people who are too big of wusses to go all the way and be Deadheads.

I went all the way with a Deadhead once. She was hot. Wait....

Tom Walls | January 29, 2008, 4:37pm | #

I live in Fla., so there is a Parrothead Parking Lot Party at every bar adjacent to a marina.

> You ain't lived 'til you've been to a Parrothead Parking Lot Party. It's like a Deadhead event only for Parrotheads.

Brian Courts | January 29, 2008, 4:42pm | #

Buffet is horrible [. . .]. He's nothing but a dirty saltwater hippie redneck cheeseball.

Not to mention a thief for ripping off his biggest hit from "Piña Coladaburg" which was written seven and a half fucking years before "Margaritaville" was even on the map!

Pro Libertate | January 29, 2008, 4:45pm | #

I'm not some huge Buffet fan, but I do like him well enough. Of course, as a Floridian, I've been more than a little overexposed to his music. Also, I suppose I have a soft spot for dirty saltwater hippie rednecks. Not sure about cheeseballs.

JL | January 29, 2008, 4:52pm | #

Buffet touched on some of the more controversial issues of our time, such as cheeseburgers that exist in paradise. This should not be overlooked.

Warren | January 29, 2008, 4:55pm | #

You ain't lived 'til you've been to a Parrothead Parking Lot Party. It's like a Deadhead event only for Parrotheads.

Ahhh yeah. A pathetic middle-aged pot n' tequila version of a Dead event. I was fortunate enough to make it to a few actual Dead shows. The 'event' doesn't start in the parking lot. It doesn't start in the arena. It starts in your head about half an hour after you drop the acid.

For the record, the only crowd of people I could ever be comfortable around while tripping on 250ugs was Deadheads.

Brandybuck | January 29, 2008, 4:56pm | #

OMG! Dondero has to support Ron Paul now, with an endorsement like this! Everyone knows that Arlo is TEH True Libertee® Man!

DavidS | January 29, 2008, 4:57pm | #

Coming in to Los Angeles was also his best song, IMO. I once saw a Japanese copy of the Woodstock album that had the lyrics as:

"Coming in to Los Angeles - Bringing in a couple of geese"


Class.

Russ 2000 | January 29, 2008, 4:58pm | #

Arlo supports Ron Paul, ergo Arlo is a racist.

The Significance Of The Sickle.

The Wine Commonsewer | January 29, 2008, 5:07pm | #

Not to mention a thief for ripping off his biggest hit from "Piña Coladaburg" which was written seven and a half fucking years before "Margaritaville" was even on the map!

such as cheeseburgers that exist in paradise

Interestingly, Jimmy sued those chicks in Maui for naming the restaurant Cheeseburger in Paradise.

Should have sued them for serving crappy cheeseburgers. I mean they are bad.

BTW, they settled and the chicks get to keep the name on the Lahaina place but no more.

Reinmoose | January 29, 2008, 5:10pm | #

TWC -
Any insight on the Honolulu Cheeseburger in Paradise location? It's not listed as one of Jimmy Buffet's franchises...

Colin | January 29, 2008, 5:10pm | #

Russ is correct -- that's modus ponens, if I remember my logic correctly.

Are you sure Ron didn't confuse Arlo with Woody?

An Ottawa Reader | January 29, 2008, 5:19pm | #

Oh, I don't know. Who here thinks Johnny Rotten could pull off a "Coming into Los Angeles" cover with no trouble?

(raises hand)

BakedPenguin | January 29, 2008, 5:24pm | #

My brother once knew a guy who could have stepped out of a Buffet song - he lived as a commercial lobster fisherman in Key West.

He told me once while out partying, he came across a wrecked Porsche. Inside was Jimmy Buffet, wasted out of his mind. He and his friend drove Buffett back to his house.

Ottawa Reader - If Sid could do "My Way"...

The Wine Commonsewer | January 29, 2008, 5:24pm | #

RM, The Lahaina place and the Honolulu restaurant as well is what I should have said but didn't. Sorry. :-)

Those women are making bank and although the food isn't too great, the drinks are good and the service is usually good.

The Wine Commonsewer | January 29, 2008, 5:26pm | #

Baked, so Buffet is being a bit disingenuous when he talks about how he's never had to go to rehab like the other rock stars?

The Wine Commonsewer | January 29, 2008, 5:28pm | #

Oh, for the record, I haven't eaten at CB in Paradise Waikiki. But the Maui CB in P and their sister restaurant in Wialea are not good.

Go for the drinks, enjoy a morning cup of coffee on the water, but skip the food. Espc the cheeseburgers.

Pro Libertate | January 29, 2008, 5:30pm | #

Well, considering that his biggest hit is about being blasted in the Keys, I think he simply doesn't consider mass alcohol consumption to be an issue.

Reinmoose | January 29, 2008, 5:30pm | #

Donna worry TWC, I no eat Cheesebergers

I've been to the Waikiki one before, which is why I asked. I don't plan on going on my next trip, however, for numerous reasons.

BakedPenguin | January 29, 2008, 5:31pm | #

TWC - I can't really say. I've known people who've driven (as drunk as they described him) who didn't usually have a problem with booze. Could'a been a one-off.

trigger-happy | January 29, 2008, 5:32pm | #

Literally the only thing Reason ever does is slander Ron Paul. Its incredible since the MSM stopped a long time ago but Reason keeps going. You would think Ron Paul were a piñata full of candy instead of the only candidate who stands a chance at upholding the constitution/restoring freedom/ending the drug war. I'm cancelling my subscription and my level 11 elf is cancelling his subscription too. You are a very inappropriately named magazine!

Pro Libertate | January 29, 2008, 5:37pm | #

Wait! Don't go! This Hit & Run commenter actually voted for Ron Paul! He could win Florida if my vote is counted a million times extra!

The Wine Commonsewer | January 29, 2008, 5:42pm | #

I'm cancelling my subscription and my level 11 elf is cancelling his subscription too.

TWO DRINKS EACH!

That's the rules, man. Two cancellations = two drinks.

Russ 2000 | January 29, 2008, 5:45pm | #

I'm gonna subscribe to reason just so I can cancel and give everyone another excuse to drink.

Pro Libertate | January 29, 2008, 5:45pm | #

Two drinks? Well, I'm having a haggis smoothie--one part haggis, two parts Scotch, one part low-fat yogurt. One would think that one drink of that would be adequate for all drinking contests.

Pro Libertate | January 29, 2008, 5:47pm | #

By the way, it's called a crappuccino.

The Wine Commonsewer | January 29, 2008, 5:49pm | #

Found Piña Coladaburg on YouTube. I can see where Jimmy may have gotten the inspiration for Margaritaville from it, but to my ears, it doesn't sound enough like Margaritaville to be a direct rip-off.

On a slightly related note, I like a Buffet tune now and again, but the all-time best drinking song to come out of South Fla was Five O'Clock Somewhere. Alan Jackson and Jimmy Buffet.

The Wine Commonsewer | January 29, 2008, 5:52pm | #

Forgot the link to Five O'Clock Somewhere, which apparently it is in Pro's part of the world.

Benedict XVI | January 29, 2008, 5:58pm | #

I like Ron Paul because he believes the Bible should have the same relevance today that it has a couple of thousand years ago. Fuck the Constitution.

T | January 29, 2008, 6:00pm | #

PL,

I'll take one of those sans the haggis and yogurt. And sub in Irish for the Scotch.

On that note, I'm going home to have a few drinks and forget about ignuts that tear up expensive equipment in the middle of a production run.

Isaac Bartram | January 29, 2008, 6:01pm | #

I remember a bunch of LPers going to some all-weekend event in Florida that featured Arlo Guthrie. they got to talk to him at some length and one of them said something to the effect that "he has great politics and lousy economics".
My brother once knew a guy who could have stepped out of a Buffet song - he lived as a commercial lobster fisherman in Key West.
I lived in the Keys for nearly two years and, yeah, it was kind of like living in a Buffet song some days. But not every day.

And it was expensive then, now it's just fucking insane.

Kolohe | January 29, 2008, 6:11pm | #

The honolulu place is now called "Cheeseburger Waikiki," but still has the same sign design and menu. And it moved around the corner to where the sizzler used to be ; the old place is now a Cheescake factory (there must have been an ancient Hawaiian dairy farm on the land that requires all tenants to use curdled milk products)

Pro Libertate | January 29, 2008, 6:13pm | #

TWC,

Very likely. My brother, stepsons, and I were hip deep in the bay fishing for snook and redfish just a couple of weeks ago. In shorts--it was warmish.

No keepers that day (caught a small snook), but it's a nice way to spend the winter, nevertheless.

T,

I was just kidding. It was bourbon, not Scotch. I may have lots of Scottish blood, but I can't abide that filthy drink. Besides, I'm from the South. Tequila is an acceptable substitute for Floridians, Mexicans, and people from states bordering Mexico.

Brian Courts | January 29, 2008, 6:35pm | #

Found Piña Coladaburg on YouTube. I can see where Jimmy may have gotten the inspiration for Margaritaville from it, but to my ears, it doesn't sound enough like Margaritaville to be a direct rip-off.

Heh, sorry TWC for not making it clear, my post was a joke. The reference is to the movie Club Dread.

From a synopsis / review:
The host of the festivities is none other than Coconut Pete, played by a hilarious, show stealing Bill Paxton. Pete is a rock n’ roll burnout who has hopes of igniting a future concert tour alongside Billy Squire and Eddie Money. His music style is in the vein of Jimmy Buffet. There’s even a riotous stab at the song “Margaritaville”, when Pete tries to point out that a song of his, the similarly themed “Pina Colada-burg”, was in fact written seven years prior. He blames Buffet’s song for destroying his brief, one hit wonder career.
The scene my comment was referring to goes something like this:
Play "Margaritaville."
[Applause Stops]
Pete: Excuse me?
Play "Margaritaville." I "love" that song.
Pete: Darlin', I think you're referrin' to my song "Pina Coladaburg."
No, "Margaritaville. ' [chuckles]
Pete: I think you mean "Pina Coladaburg." A little song I wrote seven and a half fucking years... before "Margaritaville" was even on the map!
Apparently, according to wiki, Buffet was given a screening of the movie and liked the songs enough play some of them live on his tour.

pottsy | January 29, 2008, 6:46pm | #

"...son of a son of a bitch!"

NoStar | January 29, 2008, 7:13pm | #

I saw Jimmy Buffet at the Gorge Amphitheater overlooking the Columbia river. He puts on a good show, has excellent musicians as side men, and the girls flashing their ta-tahs like it was mardi-gras made for a fantastic afternoon/evening.

(@)(@) (.)(.) (`)(`) (*)(*) (^)(^)

Mister DNA | January 29, 2008, 7:40pm | #

Will Penn Jillette be eligible for membership in this supergroup? He played bass in Bongos Bass & Bob...

I'm holding out to see who The Shaggs endorse.

Russell | January 29, 2008, 7:59pm | #

For a brief and glorious moment on reading the title, I thought Reason had a scoop on the Clay Prize in mathematics

The Wine Commonsewer | January 29, 2008, 8:26pm | #

Heh, sorry TWC for not making it clear, my post was a joke. The reference is to the movie Club Dread.

So, you were having us on then? :-)

Don't I feel red in the face about now. Wait, that's just the alcohol.

I noticed the Club Dread connection on the video. I also thought that it had to be a parody song. But didn't want to look bad in front of you guys. :-)

Two cents waitin' for change regards, TWC

The Wine Commonsewer | January 29, 2008, 8:28pm | #

Will Penn Jillette be eligible for membership in this supergroup? He played bass in Bongos Bass & Bob...

I could swear when we saw P&T in Lost Wages that Penn was playing jazz piano off behind a palm tree on the other side of the stage. The piano went on until almost showtime.

The Wine Commonsewer | January 29, 2008, 8:31pm | #

NoStar, you got the naked tah tahs? I got the pee pees.

Last Buffet concert I went to had a shortage of bathrooms. I got the chick pulling her pants down and peeing next to me in the bushes. Actually, she was pretty hot and it isn't every day that some chick pulls her pants down five feet away from you. She did have a friend standing guard. It's awkward to smile at a woman who is taking a leak while you're standing there with your schlong in your hand.

JVLaB | January 29, 2008, 8:45pm | #

Ever heard Frank Black's cover of this song; he used to do it live, with dueling pedal steel guitars, before someone lifted them between DC and Philly from his van. Sadly, never made it to disc.

Speaking of, always envisioned Sarah Silverman in her oh so hip early 90's boho 70s vintage ensemble in this sketch:
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/93/93pbuhbye.phtml
...when I hear this refrain:

Hip woman walking on a moving floor
Tripping on the escalator
There's a man in the line
And she's blowing his mind

Brian Courts | January 29, 2008, 8:56pm | #

I saw Jimmy Buffet at the Gorge Amphitheater overlooking the Columbia river.

NoStar, the Gorge Amphitheater in amazing. Has to be simply the best concert venue in the country.

dhex | January 29, 2008, 9:37pm | #

parrotheads?

shit.

Robert | January 29, 2008, 10:11pm | #

"Coming in to Los Angeles - Bringing in a couple of geese"

Not being familiar with the song (and not being good at hearing lyrics anyway), I'll try to imagine what the lyrics were in English, and you can continue a subthread from there, telephone-style.

"Coming in to Los Angeles -- drinking in a couple of weeks"

Then someone can post the real lyrics for comparison.

Joe Allen | January 30, 2008, 4:44pm | #

new Arlo Guthrie lyrics:

You can smoke anything you want when Ron Paul is president.