What If the Dog Can See Infrared Radiation?
Jacob Sullum | June 1, 2007, 12:33pm
The Minnesota Supreme Court has upheld the use of a drug-sniffing dog to detect marijuana in an apartment based on an "articulable suspicion" rather than the "probable cause" usually required to search someone's home. The police in this case brought in a dog after maintenance workers reported seeing that the tenant of an apartment where they thought they saw grow lights would not let them in to fix a leak. Based on that information, the defendant's criminal record, and the dog's reaction outside his apartment, the police obtained a search warrant. The court ruled that the maintenance workers' suspicions were enough to justify the "minimal" intrusion represented by walking the dog down a public hallway outside the apartment. The dissenters warned:
This case marks a significant departure from our constitutional jurisprudence because it is the first time the court has authorized the search of a private residence based on anything less than probable cause in the absence of exigent circumstances. It is a departure that takes us down a road that erodes Fourth Amendment protections in one's home.
I've written about dog sniffs in public places, which the U.S. Supreme Court does not consider a search requiring probable cause, and infrared readings of homes, which it does. In the January issue of reason, Julian Sanchez expanded on the theme by considering the constitutional conundrums posed by "pinpoint searches."
John | June 2, 2007, 9:18pm | #
American Non-resistance speaks out!:
John, what would you say in your hypothetical world where drugs are legal when your son/daughter comes home on his/her 18th birthday with a pack of meth?
A "pack of meth"? Well, I guess I'd leave that to the parents of this hypothetical "son/daughter" to decide, since it's their business and none of mine. Maybe they could boot him/her out onto the street. Maybe they could take the opportunity to get him/her to do all the chores in 24 hours. I don't care what they do as long as they don't involve me in the process.
But I'm not a child, and I'm not the child of either you or your nanny state, so you get to shut up and mind your own business about what I do or don't do with my health.
I don't want you to pay for the consequences and I don't want to pay for your problems.
And you have
no right to expect anything else from me. If you are so weak you need a SWAT team hovering around you all the time to keep from being a needle junkie, well,
sucks to be you, doesn't it?
It's none of my concern.
As for the harm caused by marijuana, the science is clear. Not only is it a dangerous carciongen that damages the lings, it also contributes to lethargy and laziness. In addition, it often serves as a gateway to "harder" drugs.
The "science" is pseudoscience, and if you believe that kind of pseudoscience, you have to belive all those worthless "studies" about gun ownership making people more aggressive. But it doesn't matter anyway, because valid or not, you have no right to make decisions for other people about what they do to themselves with drugs - or don't do. See above. You arn't the national mommy.
But I guess in the fantasy libertarian world letting Anhueser Busch and Phillip-Morris manufacture meth and LSD is a-ok!
I couldn't care less. And if freedom is a "fantasy world" than it's due to people like you who can't mind your own damned business. What is it you are supposed to be "resisting", anyway? It sure isn't the state.
Hey, maybe we will have "micro-meth labs" like we have "micro-breweries".
Unlike you, I don't stay up all night grinding my teeth and obsessing about other people's poor health choices. Better lay off the statism, pal.
StupidScript | June 4, 2007, 6:28pm | #
C'mon guys, lay off AR. It's not just that they hijacked this thread to focus on drugs, instead of the State's power to force its way into an apartment because some repair man couldn't get into someone's apartment (maybe they just got out of the bath?), they really are astute:
Why is the government so incompetant that it cant stop dangerous drugs from coming in our country in the first place?
YEAH BABY! How come the government can't stop those damn drugs that ended up growing in that guy's bathroom, anyway? THAT's what I'm talking about ... good old fashioned "reason".
Besides, I simply do not hear ANYONE clamoring to legalize ALL drugs any more than I hear them clamoring to make alcohol illegal. I hear people clamoring to make weed legal and keep alcohol legal. The bullshit is that the Feds have made marijuana the number 1 target of its interdiction efforts, while at the same time reducing its emphasis on seeking out and prosecuting crimes for heroin, cocaine, methamphetamine and every other drug.
Why?
(1) Dogs can't smell a baggie of heroin through a door unless the baggie is right up against it.
(2) There aren't enough heroin et al. users to justify the DEA's humongous budget (~$35 billion/year).
(3) They don't have to waste a lot of prison space to make headlines with their "success" rate at arresting drug offenders* ... which leads to more budget dollars.
*Only 6 percent of marijuana arrests result in felony convictions. I refer you to the
Rosenthal story.
Whether it's acceptable to use drug-sniffing dogs to walk down a public hallway to see if they hit paydirt ... that's the issue we should be discussing.
The shit I give would be a whole lot larger if they were using BOMB-sniffing dogs ... unless, of course, the terrorists will be trying to kill us by detonating POT BOMBS! In which case ... okay ... now I'm all confused about what I would consider to be acceptable behavior ...
The Magistrate | June 4, 2007, 9:07pm | #
Hi,
I think "American Resitance" is good to have around so you can see the mindset that those people who are trying to legalize marijuana have to battle against every day.
People like him are afraid of freedom, basically. Freedom is not to be secure in your person and effects if what you have is given the OK by everyone, then what would be its purpose? Same with freedom of speech. If it meant only unobjectionable speech, it would be useless, as even the worst dictatorships allow such speech. Under these definitions America has no real meaning.
Rather, to be secure in your persons and effects means that what you do with yourself and your own things, so long as these activities involve or harm no one else or their property, then they must be allowed, as Mill and Lippmann (and Jefferson) all said--for the greater good of human liberty. You might not like gays, or atheists, or commies, or pot smokers, but these activities are all protected and having them protected is what makes America America. You might not like the Klan, but you have to let them march and speak, for example. Anything else would be a regression.
The fact that repair men would call the police for a man growing marijuana is a travesty in itself. We have become a nation of narco 1-880 number dialing weasels. What harm did he do to anyone? As for the dogs, which have now invaded school lockers, subways, airports, and road blocks, they are a symbol of fascism, and indeed were used for similar purposes during World War II Jew roundups.
That marijuana remains illegal is a travesty of proportions that rival Nazism in Germany, the red scare in the USA, and even slavery and witch trials. During all of these activities the "general public" accepted the status quo, and did not realize they were in the midst of tragedy. The prosection of people who decide to alter their conscience---the same way drinkers do at the White House banquets---has made us the nation which imprisons a higher percentage of its own people than anywhere else.
Drugs being illegal---especially soft drugs like marijuana and hashish---is a hypocrisy and unconstitutional. It is also unjust on numerous legal grounds, namely that it involves no tort---there is no victim, and no other person or others' property is harmed. When a person smokes a joint and punches somebody (a very rare occurence indeed...) his crime is punching someone. What does his state of mind have to do with it? Would it be different if he was under a prescription for anxiety (downers) or depression (uppers)?
Finally, American Rsistance is a symbol of the ignorance in this country about marijuana and its products. There is not one single account of a death attributable to marijuana. These "carcinogens" he spouts off about are found in 1000 times greater quantity when you walk down the street and inhale car fumes and factory emissions. And as for my sone coming home with a "pack of meth" , he is too smart for that since he has been told the truth about drugs since the age of ten. I would also tell you this: this is between the family and should be handled by the family. Personally if he has a good job (which many pot smokers indeed do), pays his bills, and does what he is supposed to, should I care if he smokes on weekends?
Bottom line is, I cannot regulate to make sure you take a shower every day, or refrain from wearing disgusting perfume, or go to stupid Monster Truck shows, or dress like an idiot, or have no manners...etc. These are all protected for you, fat ugly stupid pigs. Now why can't you respect someone who chooses to smoke grass. What's it to you?
The Magistrate