Pollsters Predict: "Lethargic Republicans" Likely To Be Lethargic Come Election Day
Nick Gillespie | October 19, 2006, 7:22am

The Wash Times reports on a likely (or is that
possible?) reason the GOP is going to take one in the chops come Nov. 7: "lethargic Republicans" unmotivated to rouse themselves from their grotesquely overstuffed couches, turn the ignition key on their
Rascal Ultralite scooters, and head down to the local voting booth to punch a ticket for the "lesser of two evils.":
"The message hasn't gotten across because a lot of people are sick and tired of thinking the only reason for going to the polls is to vote for the Republicans because they are lesser of two evils," said Tom McClusky, vice president for government affairs at the Family Research Council (FRC), a leading social conservative group....
A top Republican pollster confidentially echoed those sentiments.
"There are very definitely trouble signs in many states of what we call the 'LRs' -- the lethargic Republicans," said the pollster, who agreed to speak on the condition of anonymity. "They are unhappy with the president and have little love lost for Congress."
More here.
I, for one, welcome our new lethargic underlords, especially in a divided-government setting.
Why are Republicans and conservatives suffering from the political equivalent of Epstein-Barr Virus? There's the overspending, of course, and the botched war effort. The sense that the Bush admin and GOP Congress, for all their conservative family-values talk, hasn't done enough to stop abortion and Terri Schiavo plug-puliings and stuff like that. Nor have they done enough to electrocute illegal immigrants like "livestock" (as Rep. Steve King of Iowa quaintly put it) or repress the seemingly irrepressible "homosexual agenda," etc. Since I'm not a conservative, I'm skylarking here.
This much seems more clear (and surprising) and doesn't bode well for the Republicans: On terrorism-related issues (stopping it, not causing it), the Dems are shaping up as the party of choice. Early October polls asking which party will do a better job fighting terrorism gave the Democrats sizeable advantages on the issue: 5 points in a CNN poll; 5 points in a Gallup/USA Today poll; 7 points in a Newsweek poll; and 6 points in an ABC News/Wash Post poll. More on that here.
ChicagoTom | October 19, 2006, 3:01pm | #
But to argue that the Dems have anything even remotely better to offer is the biggest load of horseshit I've read all day.
Speaking of horseshit.
I never argued that -- my argument has been that:
1. Using Pelosi as a boogey man is dumb move.
2. Hastert is a much bigger liability to the GOP "values" crowd than Pelosi.
3. Harry Reid's non scandal is not anywhere near as bad as Hastert's scandal.
But since you brought it up....if the Dems can get control and defund this stupid Iraq debacle, or even superficial oversight or a check to the executive branch, then that in itself is offering something leaps and bounds better than what the current congress is offering.
The Dems are so fucking clueless that they trash one of their biggest star players just to pander to the Cathy Sheehan wing.
Joe "We undermine the President's credibility at our nation's peril" Lieberman is a "Dem star player"? A Democrat who when asked if he would prefer to see a Democratic Congress replied: "I dunno...Ill have to get back to you" ?? A Democrat who spends every chance he gets chiding Democrats for being overly partisan when its the GOP that has blocked out the minority party of even basic input on most legislation. Lieberman has been one of the biggest GOP enabler since the GOP took over. Getting a Vichy Democrat like Joe Lieberman out of the Democratic ranks is one of the smartest things they could do.
Why do you think the GOP machinery has abandoned Schlessinger and has thrown all of it's support to Holy Joe?? Because they want to protect a Dem star?? It seems you are the clueless one in this case.
And BTW, her name is Cindy Sheehan -- not Cathy. But facts dont really matter when you are talking out of your ass.
How stupid did you think it was when Laffey almost beat Chafee in the primary?? How clueless were the republicans there? I dont remember you attacking them for that. I guess it's only clueless and dumb when the Dems primary one of their own. When the GOP does it -- that's just democracy in action.
The Dems don't have no game. They're basically wandering onto the field after the idiot Republicans take themselves out. No guts. No glory.
I agree with this overall...the current Dems...the ones that are very comfortable being in the minority party have no guts whatsoever. But if people like Lamont -- people who actually publically state that they want to get our troops out of Iraq instead of staying the course get into office I think you are gonna see a new Democratic party with more guts and a lot more glory.
A mid-term victory similar to the GOP's '94 victory will embolden the party. I think you are gonna see the Democrat's standing up for themselevs a lot more. Winning tends to fix dysfunction.
ChicagoTom | October 19, 2006, 4:51pm | #
MNG,
You really are talking out of your ass.
Yeah he was the Dem VP nominee 6 years ago...
but how did that star fare in 2004??
So I guess by your definition Dan Quale was a GOP star too -- and an even bigger one than Holy Joe since he wasn't just a nominee but actually served as VP, right?
And it isn't only one issue (but even if it was...Iraq is THE ISSUE right now). Holy Joe has been pissing off Democrats since 2000. He is George Bush's favorite Democrat. When Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin and every other shrill GOP pundit is praising you to high heaven -- it seems awfully silly to claim that that person is a Dem "Star". He is a Vichy Democrat plain and simple. He undermines the party better than anyone else.
In fact, its republicans who lamented Joe's primary loss more than anyone in the Democratic establishment....Im sure that the GOP is just looking out for the Dems best interest.
And maybe you should follow the CT race a little closer if you are going to be commenting about it.
The first 2 debates just happened -- and by all accounts Schlessinger has been the guy who has gained the most. Holy Joe will only get re-elected if the CT republican voters choose him over Schlessinger -- becuase right now about 65 - 70% of Dems in CT are gonna pull the lever for Lamont.
Lieberman is pulling over 75% of the republican vote in CT (just what you would expect from a Dem star, eh??)
Unfortunately for Joe, Schlessinger had quite an impressive showing in the debates and has been hitting Lieberman hard on core conservative issues (immigration, Social Security, taxes / spending, pork etc) -- if Schlessinger pulls even 20-25 percent of the vote Lieberman is toast. That race isn't over. (Oh by the way Lamont has closed the gap in a three way to about 10 points....maybe in pull-shit-out-of-your-ass-land that's considered a "collapse" but in reality 10 points before the debates is not a bad position to be in against an 18 year incumbent)
And just to prove my point that Sore Loserman is by no means a Dem "Star" -- he made a comment during the first debate after Schlessinger attacked him on some issue...he said, (I watched the debate live and almost fell off my chair when he said it) in a surprised tone, "I expected to be attacked from this side [pointing to Lamont] but not from this side [pointing to Schlessinger]" the implication is obvious....he lost the Dem primary so now he is running as the defacto republican. And somehow rational people are supposed to be bothered by the fact that DINO Joe lost a primary to a much better candidate??? The Dem party will be better off without a subversive like Joe in its midst. The GOP can have him -- since they are the ones who consider him a star and so important to remain in the Senate anyway. (Psst -- party "stars" don't lose their primary)
As for Pelosi -- maybe she will be a disaster once she becomes speaker and gets a higher profile..I dunno...but to use her as a boogeyman before the election -- when so few voters have even heard of her is the epitome of desperation. The only people who would respond to Pelosi as a boogeyman are those who were gonna vote GOP no matter what.